Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do this? Kaylee: Sure. Yeah. I think so. 'Sides, if I mess up, not like you'll be able to yell at me.

'Bushwhacked'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Feb 09, 2008 3:10:41 pm PST #8485 of 10001

From reports on caucuses from Slog (granted, a very self selecting audience), it seems all of their precincts went for Obama too.

I did not caucus. I am a bad bad person.


P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2008 3:17:29 pm PST #8486 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I don't know what our final tally was, but our first count was strongly Obama.


Susan W. - Feb 09, 2008 3:34:21 pm PST #8487 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I held Annabel up to the window where the people were lined up to come in (we were smart and came at 12:45 instead of 1:00) and told her that this is what democracy looks like.

Thing is, it was kind of a pain in the neck. DH got semi-drafted as precinct chair because he admitted to having done it before (4 years ago, with ten people, when we could actually have a conversation and hear ourselves think). So he, the Obama precinct captain, and the most outspoken Hillary voter had an informal conclave on how to make rules designed for a dozen people or so work for over a hundred. On first count we had several undecideds and a little clump of Kucinich supporters, and it ended up with the Obama and Hillary people each trying to cajole the Kucinich people to their side to get the last delegate, with the Obama group prevailing in the end.

With the numbers being so large, it just didn't feel like a regular caucus--you just couldn't have a thoughtful dialogue. It ended up being more about sound bites and talking points, which is sad. But OTOH, it was cool to see that many people gathered around to make their voices heard. We had several precincts in the gym where we were, so I think there were 400-500 people in the room. And when DH dismissed us, he said, "Have a great four years--with a president who isn't named Bush!" THAT got a big round of applause.


Hil R. - Feb 09, 2008 3:43:58 pm PST #8488 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Extremely random question: There's this photo of Abraham Joshua Heschel, one of THE big-name leaders of Modern Orthodox Judaism in the US, marching on Selma with MLK Jr. [link] I've seen this photo a million times, because a copy of it is framed in just about every even vaguely liberal Jewish school I've ever seen. My question, which has been bothering me for years: in this picture, all the people in the front few rows of the march are wearing what look like leis. Why?

t edit: nevermind. Google gave me an answer. They were a gift from Rev. Abraham Akaka, a minister from Hawaii.


sarameg - Feb 09, 2008 3:47:28 pm PST #8489 of 10001

That sounds neat, Susan. I suspect that a caucus would cause me to lose my mind, however. Everytime I hear them described it reminds me of quaker meetings for business (but with less consensus) and that makes me start twitching.

I'm a really effective EX-quaker, I have to say. Much as I still like and admire them, too many of the core parts of quakerism are things I definitely no longer believe or practice.


SuziQ - Feb 09, 2008 3:48:26 pm PST #8490 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Thanks, all, for the birthday wishes.


Pix - Feb 09, 2008 4:01:16 pm PST #8491 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Okay, I just emptied my savings to pay off a credit card. Someone tell me I did the right thing before I have heart palpitations, because this has been my only cushion in case of emergency for two years.


brenda m - Feb 09, 2008 4:04:50 pm PST #8492 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Kristin, in case of emergency you'll have the credit available, and won't be paying the interest on it in the meantime.


Pix - Feb 09, 2008 4:11:28 pm PST #8493 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Thanks, Brenda. I still have another big credit card to pay off, but it's on 0% right now, so maybe with this other monkey off my back I can finally start making progress on it. It's just scary to be back to no cushion again. Deep breaths,


Jesse - Feb 09, 2008 4:14:40 pm PST #8494 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What Brenda said.

Caucusing sounds cool. Although an in-depth discussion among the 10 people who show up sounds kind of horrible to me -- wouldn't those ten people be the most committed to their positions?

Also, I love the Selma marchers in their leis! How random.