And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Feb 08, 2008 9:06:50 am PST #8330 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oh, man, msbelle. Many hugs to both of you.


lisah - Feb 08, 2008 9:06:57 am PST #8331 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

"If Hillary's the nominee I'm voting third-party" train

I don't really get this at all. He means instead of Obama?


Vortex - Feb 08, 2008 9:07:01 am PST #8332 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

ION - hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.

I feel your pain. I had a complete "huh" moment with Nilly when I was explaining how and why Howard University was created and she said "but, why couldn't the black people learn with everybody else?"


Nora Deirdre - Feb 08, 2008 9:07:14 am PST #8333 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

What does slave mean? Why would they do that?

Oh no.


JZ - Feb 08, 2008 9:08:08 am PST #8334 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Though my head really *isn't* in the sand. I know plenty about the issues at hand; I'm just small-minded enough that I can discuss and strategize and analyze till the cows come home with people who mostly agree with me, but I'm not competent to thoughtfully defend the stuff that matters bone-and-marrow deep with someone who's jokey and dismissive.


Vortex - Feb 08, 2008 9:09:00 am PST #8335 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Though my head really *isn't* in the sand.

mine either. It's just easier to say it that way.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:00 am PST #8336 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.

Oy. That's an obviously hard part of interracial adoption, and when the kid isn't American I can't imagine the added complexity. Thinking about it makes me want to cry.

Msbelle, if you want my parents' reading list for raising a non-American kid with an awareness of American racial politics, just holler.


Jesse - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:01 am PST #8337 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What does slave mean? Why would they do that?

Oh, noodle.


Jessica - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:05 am PST #8338 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ION - hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.

Oh wow. I can't even imagine.


Steph L. - Feb 08, 2008 9:11:33 am PST #8339 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

followed by whining about how the Democrats co-opted the Populist platform back in the '30s.

Well, then, I guess his position is totally definsible.

t /sarcasm

hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.

Oh, msbelle. You're a good, good mom. I'm glad mac is learning about it from you instead of school, where teachers might not be so patient with him.