"If Hillary's the nominee I'm voting third-party" train
I don't really get this at all. He means instead of Obama?
Hmm. It's sounds like the finest party I can imagine getting paid to go to.
Mal ,'Shindig'
Natter 56: ...we need the writers.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
lisah - Feb 08, 2008 9:06:57 am PST #8331 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate
Vortex - Feb 08, 2008 9:07:01 am PST #8332 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
ION - hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.
I feel your pain. I had a complete "huh" moment with Nilly when I was explaining how and why Howard University was created and she said "but, why couldn't the black people learn with everybody else?"
Nora Deirdre - Feb 08, 2008 9:07:14 am PST #8333 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
What does slave mean? Why would they do that?
Oh no.
JZ - Feb 08, 2008 9:08:08 am PST #8334 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Though my head really *isn't* in the sand. I know plenty about the issues at hand; I'm just small-minded enough that I can discuss and strategize and analyze till the cows come home with people who mostly agree with me, but I'm not competent to thoughtfully defend the stuff that matters bone-and-marrow deep with someone who's jokey and dismissive.
Vortex - Feb 08, 2008 9:09:00 am PST #8335 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Though my head really *isn't* in the sand.
mine either. It's just easier to say it that way.
§ ita § - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:00 am PST #8336 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.
Oy. That's an obviously hard part of interracial adoption, and when the kid isn't American I can't imagine the added complexity. Thinking about it makes me want to cry.
Msbelle, if you want my parents' reading list for raising a non-American kid with an awareness of American racial politics, just holler.
Jesse - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:01 am PST #8337 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
What does slave mean? Why would they do that?
Oh, noodle.
Jessica - Feb 08, 2008 9:10:05 am PST #8338 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
ION - hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.
Oh wow. I can't even imagine.
Steph L. - Feb 08, 2008 9:11:33 am PST #8339 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
followed by whining about how the Democrats co-opted the Populist platform back in the '30s.
Well, then, I guess his position is totally definsible.
t /sarcasm
hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.
Oh, msbelle. You're a good, good mom. I'm glad mac is learning about it from you instead of school, where teachers might not be so patient with him.
JZ - Feb 08, 2008 9:12:11 am PST #8340 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
ION - hard parental thing for my moment - trying to explain African American history issues to mac. What does slave mean? Why would they do that? - it is like dying a little bit.
Oh, msbelle. What an awful thing to have to explain.
eta: And, what ita said about all the additional layers of complexity in the case of the two of you, except I couldn't say it half so eloquently. And I'm sorry it's so wretched to explain us and all our messy frequently-evil history, but Mac is so lucky to be your son.
I don't really get this at all. He means instead of Obama?
Yep. He'll hold his nose and vote for Obama despite O's being a Democrat (because they are ideologically hopelessly compromised and corrupt), but Hillary is a D too far.