See, in my fantasy, when I'm kissing you... you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait.

Oz ,'First Date'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Feb 06, 2008 10:05:53 am PST #7944 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Sox, what's going on? Is it the Watcher or the Kid?


lisah - Feb 06, 2008 10:08:48 am PST #7945 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

What, are you reading the latest WYPR news?

I hesitate to ask...what else has happened??? (Businesses I know are pulling their sponsorship over the Steiner thing.)

Sox, I would flip out in your position. At the nanny and, especially, at her agency. And never invite her back.


sarameg - Feb 06, 2008 10:12:35 am PST #7946 of 10001

Hah. Actually, I'd defer to parents.

That babysitter was insane to do that. I do think it is all to easy for a caregiver to shut down if a parent is around, especially if they are not used to those circumstances. Not right, mind you, but pretty common. Especially if they are relatively inexperienced.

I do think working at home when the kid is home is..well, my dad used to take me into his office when I was sick. Someone (not always my dad! ) always didn't get as much work done, and that was me sick & subdued. If you are used to it great! If not, it could go ferwonky.


hippocampus - Feb 06, 2008 10:12:37 am PST #7947 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

Watcher

change verb to cellphonetalker/internetsurfer. I'm working and chasing a three year old who doesn't seem so deathly ill and who will absolutely be going to school tomorrow as long as I'm not in jail.


megan walker - Feb 06, 2008 10:12:58 am PST #7948 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Sox,

As someone who worked as a nanny, that is unacceptable. I worked for a number of type-A NYC lawyers and I'm sure you are far from being unreasonable.

And, even so, your caregiver is there to care for your child, not do personal business. Did I like the mother who didn't believe in baby wipes and made me use cotton balls and distilled water when I changed diapers? No. But I was there to care for her child, not mine.

However, I didn't refrain from doing work for myself, reading, or being on the phone if the baby was sleeping. And I always was happy when mothers explicitly said that was okay, because they would do that themselves, you know?

When mothers were there at the same time, I made sure that they were not disturbed if at all possible.


Jesse - Feb 06, 2008 10:15:34 am PST #7949 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

the mother who didn't believe in baby wipes and made me use cotton balls and distilled water when I changed diapers?

OMG that's hilarious.


Vortex - Feb 06, 2008 10:17:53 am PST #7950 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

"As you can see from this description, this argument is extraordinarily [tenuous, I guess]."

convoluted?


megan walker - Feb 06, 2008 10:18:13 am PST #7951 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

OMG that's hilarious.

When you're the one doing the changing. Not so much.

Eventually she let me go because, and I quote:
"I consider you my peer and there are certain things I can't ask you to do because of that."

She made her cleaning lady scrub the grout between the tiles on the kitchen floor with a toothbrush.


Kat - Feb 06, 2008 10:19:30 am PST #7952 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yeah. I saw that. If she's from an agency, I'd call to complain.

It's almost entirely probable that the cell/surf thing is a result of you being present. When I nannied, I'd often defer to the parent when they were around, because they were around.

Another friend who still nannies always tries to arrange her work so that she is not working when the parents are home because there are a ton of mixed messages.

Has she responded by stepping up when you pointed out that she is there to watch the kid so you can finish work, that you expect her to do that?

Ugh. What a nightmare. I'm sorry.


Jesse - Feb 06, 2008 10:19:40 am PST #7953 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

When you're the one doing the changing. Not so much.

Well, sure, but these are the kinds of things we have to suffer through so that they can become funny later.