Sometimes a thing gets broke, can't be fixed.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jan 03, 2008 6:37:26 pm PST #785 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

say... election returns are sort of like a procedural. you know. sorta.


libkitty - Jan 03, 2008 6:38:24 pm PST #786 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Even now. Did you get procedurals there Trudy?


billytea - Jan 03, 2008 6:43:24 pm PST #787 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And that should do it.


libkitty - Jan 03, 2008 6:43:47 pm PST #788 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I think we made it, folks. Back to your regularly scheduled election discussions!


sarameg - Jan 03, 2008 7:00:40 pm PST #789 of 10001

Really white teeth. Blindingly white. That's my political commentary.


Susan W. - Jan 03, 2008 7:12:04 pm PST #790 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

A little while ago, our friend who'd been watching the house while we were out of town came by with the packages that arrived while we were gone. One of them was a gift from one of my CPs--a paperweight with the Churchill quote, "Never, never, never give up."

Given the timing, I'm choosing to take that as a message from the universe.


Trudy Booth - Jan 03, 2008 7:37:14 pm PST #791 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

billytea, those tassie pics are adorable


JenP - Jan 03, 2008 7:56:14 pm PST #792 of 10001

Gorgeous pictures, billytea.


libkitty - Jan 03, 2008 8:06:47 pm PST #793 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Wow, billytea. Gorgeous!


megan walker - Jan 03, 2008 9:05:47 pm PST #794 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Well, it makes it harder, on a variety of levels. I mean, do we go for the drastic credit counseling option that takes away our credit cards and, I believe, leaves a permanent demerit on our financial history? Do we just live with the high interest rates and do the thing where you pay them off one at a time? I don't know, because THIS was supposed to be my solution.

That sucks about the loan. I'd go for the second option.

Dave Ramsey on debt counseling:

We run into nightmares with most of these services. It’s not that they’re crooks, they’re just unorganized. Stay on top of them and make sure the bills are paid, and work your debt snowball by sending extra to the smallest debt.

Companies like AmeriDebt and Consurmer Credit Counseling Service can help you get better interest rates and lower payments, but at a price. When you use one of these companies and then try to get a Conventional, FHA, or VA loan, you will be treated the same as if you had filed Chapter 13 bankruptcy. Mortgage underwriting guidelines for traditional mortgages will consider your credit trashed, so don't do it. Real debt help is found only in changing your behavior.

Most people that call in to his show having done it have stories about stuff not getting paid, etc.