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'The Message'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


hippocampus - Jan 03, 2008 3:55:28 pm PST #749 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

So far it's damn close

and yet - Brian Williams just broke in to say Obama was ahead?


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2008 3:56:11 pm PST #750 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe that's exit polling? I think Obama's been ahead in exit polls for a while....


Jesse - Jan 03, 2008 3:56:31 pm PST #751 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So why won't anything ever improve no matter how hard I fight for it?

Maybe because you don't see improvement until you can say everything's all better. Just because you didn't get the loan you were hoping for doesn't mean you can't pay off your debt.


Susan W. - Jan 03, 2008 4:06:56 pm PST #752 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, it makes it harder, on a variety of levels. I mean, do we go for the drastic credit counseling option that takes away our credit cards and, I believe, leaves a permanent demerit on our financial history? Do we just live with the high interest rates and do the thing where you pay them off one at a time? I don't know, because THIS was supposed to be my solution.

It's just...it's been so long since I've felt like I've had anything to rejoice in, and the things that started well keep turning sour or not coming through. Every time I think I've FINALLY found something good, it falls apart on me, and I'm getting angry about it because the only other option is to just give up, and I don't want to do THAT, but...how can anyone work as hard as I've been working for YEARS and never have any good luck?


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2008 4:12:18 pm PST #753 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Obama's pulling away in the "precincts reporting" thingie... he's ahead by about 2.7%.


Susan W. - Jan 03, 2008 4:25:28 pm PST #754 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Sorry to be all upset and a downer...I just thought this might work out after all, and I'm having to talk myself into keeping up the fight.

ETA it's not as grim as that sounds. Giving up would just be saying, "Oh well, I'll never be published, I'll never be out of debt, and I'll never have a good job, so I'll just stop trying to make things better and just accept that authorship, home ownership, ever getting back to Europe, and a retirement where I'm not a half-starved cat lady are not in my cards." Keeping up the fight=refusing to live a life of quite desperation.


Cashmere - Jan 03, 2008 4:27:19 pm PST #755 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Caucus watch & post!

{{{Susan}}} Just remember, it doesn't have to be an all or nothing solution. Do what you can to pay off the cards with the highest rates (via the loan) and chip away a the other ones. It will be better than nothing and maybe after a few months, when you can see progress, you'll feel better about your options.

Good news of the day: the home warranty people are going to pay for our $1K in furnace repairs.

Bad news of the day: the cat has worms.

It's a push.


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2008 4:29:49 pm PST #756 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

NBC declares Obama the winner....


Sue - Jan 03, 2008 4:31:53 pm PST #757 of 10001
hip deep in pie

So does CNN


Susan W. - Jan 03, 2008 4:32:05 pm PST #758 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

CNN is projecting Huckabee on the GOP side.