Fred: Oh my God! Angel, you're…cute! Angel: Fred, don't! Fred: Oh, but the little hands! And the hair! Angel: Hey! You're fired.

'Smile Time'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Jan 31, 2008 6:15:32 am PST #6446 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Can I heat up the branding irons for you, msbelle?

(I wish I could say the NPR story surprised me, but I hear so much of it that it hit my, "wait, this is supposed to be news?" button instead.)


msbelle - Jan 31, 2008 6:15:43 am PST #6447 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

tommy - turnout was up in 04, you are right.


brenda m - Jan 31, 2008 6:16:53 am PST #6448 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....

Yeah, but while the 00s drove me crazy with the stupid and naive the 04s make me want to rip out their lungs.


flea - Jan 31, 2008 6:23:48 am PST #6449 of 10001
information libertarian

The NYT had a depressing article yesterday with quotes from white men in TN who brought up Obama-Osama and thought he was a Muslim. (To make it clear, I personally would be happy with a moderate Muslim as president; these people were clearly in the "Muslims eat babies" demographic. Also Obama is not and has never been a Muslim, as I know you all know; he is an active churchgoer.)

I can't decide which I hate more, bigotry or ignorance.


Jars - Jan 31, 2008 6:25:57 am PST #6450 of 10001

It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....

Um, I think I might have been one of those people, were I Americanly inclined - If I don't like the options, I'll turn up and spoil my ballot, assuming there's no 'abstention' box.


msbelle - Jan 31, 2008 6:27:09 am PST #6451 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

flea - I heard some of the Muslim stuff IN MY OFFICE this week. I have a pretty strict no politics at work policy and I still had to say into the air - "He's not a muslim, he was NOT sworn in on the Qur'an.'


flea - Jan 31, 2008 6:28:03 am PST #6452 of 10001
information libertarian

Just a reminder, there are people I respect among us (Buffistas) who have voted for 3rd party candidates. I hope you respect them too.

I voted for Nader in '00, though I wouldn't have if I hadn't lived in CT at the time (safe Gore state). I voted for Gore in '04, even though as a NC resident (safe Bush state) there was little point to my doing so.


Jessica - Jan 31, 2008 6:29:16 am PST #6453 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think Brenda summed it up very precisely.

Yes, but those reasons are all (a) vague and (b) not based in reality.

When she ran her last campaign for Senator, she picked up huge numbers in the more conservative areas upstate simply by showing up and being demonstrably non-Satanic. Once she was standing in front of people, they had a much harder time remembering what specifically she'd done to piss them off in the first place.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2008 6:30:59 am PST #6454 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I voted for Nader in '00 as well, again because I was in a safe Gore state. I wanted a third party to be able to get funding. I would have voted for Gore in a state that was more on the line.


Cashmere - Jan 31, 2008 6:33:49 am PST #6455 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I can't decide which I hate more, bigotry or ignorance.

They go together like heat and humidity--one makes the other feel worse.

Just a reminder, there are people I respect among us (Buffistas) who have voted for 3rd party candidates. I hope you respect them too.

I have to respect the desire for a more representative system than the two parties we have currently. I wish that we could do something more than symbolically casting a vote to push for actual change.