all the people who were apathetic and said "doesn't matter who wins now, they both suck" in 04
Huh. It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....
Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
all the people who were apathetic and said "doesn't matter who wins now, they both suck" in 04
Huh. It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....
What have you been up to these days?
Well, the semester finally started this week, after an almost 3-months strike [Edit: of the senior staff. So most of the non-senior staff couldn't teach, as well, because there were no lectures to give exercises on]. I was the only TA teaching in the entire department. You know how Louie 14 said "the country is me"? Well, for the freshmen, for several months, the physics department here was me. Poor things.
Can I heat up the branding irons for you, msbelle?
(I wish I could say the NPR story surprised me, but I hear so much of it that it hit my, "wait, this is supposed to be news?" button instead.)
tommy - turnout was up in 04, you are right.
Huh. It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....
Yeah, but while the 00s drove me crazy with the stupid and naive the 04s make me want to rip out their lungs.
The NYT had a depressing article yesterday with quotes from white men in TN who brought up Obama-Osama and thought he was a Muslim. (To make it clear, I personally would be happy with a moderate Muslim as president; these people were clearly in the "Muslims eat babies" demographic. Also Obama is not and has never been a Muslim, as I know you all know; he is an active churchgoer.)
I can't decide which I hate more, bigotry or ignorance.
It seemed to me there were a lot fewer of these people in '04 than there were in '00....
Um, I think I might have been one of those people, were I Americanly inclined - If I don't like the options, I'll turn up and spoil my ballot, assuming there's no 'abstention' box.
flea - I heard some of the Muslim stuff IN MY OFFICE this week. I have a pretty strict no politics at work policy and I still had to say into the air - "He's not a muslim, he was NOT sworn in on the Qur'an.'
Just a reminder, there are people I respect among us (Buffistas) who have voted for 3rd party candidates. I hope you respect them too.
I voted for Nader in '00, though I wouldn't have if I hadn't lived in CT at the time (safe Gore state). I voted for Gore in '04, even though as a NC resident (safe Bush state) there was little point to my doing so.
I think Brenda summed it up very precisely.
Yes, but those reasons are all (a) vague and (b) not based in reality.
When she ran her last campaign for Senator, she picked up huge numbers in the more conservative areas upstate simply by showing up and being demonstrably non-Satanic. Once she was standing in front of people, they had a much harder time remembering what specifically she'd done to piss them off in the first place.