I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Jan 15, 2008 3:47:07 pm PST #3481 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, I feel wicked cheated for not throwing Kat a baby shower, given these: [link]

Seriously.


lori - Jan 15, 2008 3:55:03 pm PST #3482 of 10001

They still have a birthday coming up...


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 15, 2008 3:56:19 pm PST #3483 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sad to hear about Renfro, but I can't say I'm surprised by the news.


NoiseDesign - Jan 15, 2008 3:56:53 pm PST #3484 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

Anyway. All that is to say, how does it handle? How does it do for hauling gear? What do you actually find you get as far as mileage?

I have the FWD not the AWD version of the Escape, but I've been very happy with it. I purchased it to get the good gas mileage (I've gotten around 31 MPG on it for most of the time I've had it) and to have something big enough to haul gear in. The seats in the back fold down flat and I've had it fully loaded many many times. It's got about the same power as a V6 Escape, so it's decent acceleration and the handling and ride is pretty good as well. It's a touch on the noisy side at highway speeds, but nothing really all the horrible. The only reason I'm getting rid of it is because I don't want to drive an SUV if I don't have to and since I bought a half ton GMC about 6 months ago for my business I use that strictly for work and for any gear I need to move. The Escape has been replaced by a fun little 2005 Mercedes.


Allyson - Jan 15, 2008 3:57:28 pm PST #3485 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

For my birthday, I'll throw them a birthday!

I wonder if we can get the little area where they have activities for a couple hours...


Trudy Booth - Jan 15, 2008 4:04:35 pm PST #3486 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Frontline tonight is How Fucking Evil is Dick Cheney

(or something like that)

It looks really good.


Liese S. - Jan 15, 2008 4:07:51 pm PST #3487 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, that definitely sounds like the vehicle I need. Just can't buy it, with the whole just-built-a-house thing. I've been hesitant about hybrids because so much of my driving is highway, but that's changed a lot this year, and will likely change moreso in the future. Too bad for me, I guess!

Yay, littlings. Allyson, you have to throw them a birthday party! You're the best at parties!


NoiseDesign - Jan 15, 2008 4:23:10 pm PST #3488 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

I've been really happy with it, and I'm a bit of a car nut, so the fact that it was a good car to me and that the hybrid aspect of it didn't drive me crazy is a pretty good argument for how good the technology is.


tommyrot - Jan 15, 2008 4:24:23 pm PST #3489 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

IIRC the Escape Hybrid uses the same technology (licensed from Toyota) as the 1st Prius.


NoiseDesign - Jan 15, 2008 4:27:45 pm PST #3490 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

It is similar tech, but not the same. As I understand it Ford ended up developing technology that came pretty close to the Toyota patents, so the two companies did an exchange. Ford gave Toyota access to a fairly large number of patents and Toyota gave Ford access to a smaller set of patents. The tech is very similar, but I've ridden in and driven both the 1st gen Prius, 2nd gen Prius, and Escape, and they aren't identical tech.