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Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Jan 11, 2008 9:44:51 am PST #2573 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I need to call the post office and harass them some more about my missing package and why no one is a) able to find it, b) able to stop hanging up on me, and c) able to call me back.


Trudy Booth - Jan 11, 2008 9:45:08 am PST #2574 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Weeeell -- with baseball players, it's pretty hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. They've all known for years that steroids were not legit, or else they wouldn't have lied about it. And they do lie about it; Palmeiro swore before Congress he'd never done steroids and then six months later tested positive for Stanozolol.

Yes. The lying is very shitty. And should count big.

But there ARE legitimate uses and without a flat-out and clear ban, you know, some grey to me.

The real gray area lies in the number of US baseball players for whom English isn't a first language, who don't necessarily know what all the additives and GNC-type supplements are. (Also, not all make their homes in the US, and laws about drugs differ so much, so "I have to go to a shady ex-podiatrist to get a scrip for it" isn't even a good rule of thumb.)

Oh WORD -- lots and lots of grey there.

I feel like Baseball really screwed the pooch on this. The IOC is nicely tyranical.

Edit: I've been watching my Mother go through real problems from her absolutely necessary medical steroid use. It's not that I don't take this seriously. And I saw how she suffered while using them. I know there are differences in drugs and doses, etc. but its hard for me to believe that someone could use them a lot and often without having some bad effects that would make them question what the hell they're ingesting.


shrift - Jan 11, 2008 9:54:32 am PST #2575 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I am now on hold with the post office.


Gudanov - Jan 11, 2008 9:55:50 am PST #2576 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Do they even still make the Plymouth? I don't recall hearing it come up in like, ever.

Plymouth went away. I don't remember exactly when.


shrift - Jan 11, 2008 9:59:18 am PST #2577 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Well. The post office found the package this time. But now they tell me I need to sign for it. And that it hadn't been scheduled for redelivery. Even though I've called them four times this week.


Stephanie - Jan 11, 2008 9:59:27 am PST #2578 of 10001
Trust my rage

Thanks!


tommyrot - Jan 11, 2008 9:59:27 am PST #2579 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Could someone see a Chevy Lumina on a daily basis and reasonably think it's a Plymouth? (I know nothing about cars)

I think not. (What kind of Plymouth?) The Lumina had a somewhat distinctive look (for a mass-produces cheap American sedan) - especially the low front end/grill that curves into the hood.

And yeah, Plymouth has been defunct since... around 2000-ish?


tommyrot - Jan 11, 2008 10:00:57 am PST #2580 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Luminas on eBay: [link]

Oh I'd forgotten there was also a Lumina minivan.


Dana - Jan 11, 2008 10:01:41 am PST #2581 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Well. The post office found the package this time. But now they tell me I need to sign for it. And that it hadn't been scheduled for redelivery. Even though I've called them four times this week.

...at least they found it?

You can kill them after they deliver it.


hippocampus - Jan 11, 2008 10:01:57 am PST #2582 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

ok Typography fans here's a debate for you: [link]