I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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askye - Jan 15, 2008 8:07:01 am PST #2438 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I am not a morning person and I've never been one. I've been an insomniac night owl since child hood, stuff like that I don't think gets changed. I should really find a job that's better suited to when I'm "awake".

I've dealt with a couple people who saw my non morning person-ness as a character flaw or a sign of immaturity and something I'd "grow out of" especially when I had children. I politely explained that even when I'm forced to get up early I'm still not a morning person.

I don't understand why a lot of morning people seem to think it's the better way and try and change or aruge with nightowls. It's seen as such a huge character defect, Yay! you (general not Buffista specific) like to get up, watch the sunrise answer email/exercise/read/do chores/whatever and then go to bed at 9 pm at night. More power to you, I prefer to do all those things to the beautiful moonlight and get up at 9 am. Or noon. Really preferably noon.


brenda m - Jan 15, 2008 8:08:43 am PST #2439 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, I find the moral judgment that seeps into the morning/evening person thing (not here!) so puzzling.


askye - Jan 15, 2008 8:17:52 am PST #2440 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I think a lot of people see it as a rebellion or a rejection of authority.


tommyrot - Jan 15, 2008 8:18:52 am PST #2441 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Or that you're lazy or slothful....


brenda m - Jan 15, 2008 8:23:11 am PST #2442 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Or that you're lazy or slothful....

For sure. But why is staying up late inherently more slothful than getting up early? It can't all be about conformity, can it? And frankly, the world being what it is, a lot of us night-owls are getting considerably less sleep than the morning people. If you go to bed at nine and get up at six, that's nine full hours. Who's the slacker now, huh?

Damn that Ben Franklin anyway.


Emily - Jan 15, 2008 8:29:01 am PST #2443 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I think it's possible that one can become, if not cheerful to mornings, at least inured to them if one has children. Maybe it's like boot camp -- it breaks you down so as to rebuild you in its image. And some people's circadian rhythms do change with age, just like their metabolisms. But yeah, the assumption that it will change "when you grow up," as it were, is irritating.


Susan W. - Jan 15, 2008 8:31:18 am PST #2444 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan - hands are tough. Lots of portraitists didn't bother, you know? Or screwed the pooch and went w/o.

That's what I figured. There was this one portrait of the Duke of Wellington that I would've sworn showed his hands--and it does, to the extent that you can tell that he did, indeed, HAVE hands: [link] But as far as being able to judge their shape and size, NSM. (I found some images from later in his life where I could see his hands, and they match the rest of his build, which was...nice.)

In a weird bit of research serendipity, I did run across a description this morning of Napoleon's hands which matched what I'd deduced from his portraits--that they were surprisingly small and soft.

(Is anyone surprised that my alternate history, and therefore my weird brief obsession with hands in portraiture, features Napoleon and Wellington? No? Didn't think so.)


vw bug - Jan 15, 2008 8:32:04 am PST #2445 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I go back and forth from being a night/morning person. Mostly I've figured out what works best for me, and I'm happiest when I stick to that. And, that tends to be going to bed around 9 p.m. and getting up around 7:00 a.m. Though, since I have an 8:30 a.m. class this next semester, I'm going to have to fudge with that sleep schedule.

It has been quite the day, and I need a nap. But, before I nap, see vw feed the lorikeets: [link] I took 88 pictures today, and I don't want to post them all. Some of them are kind of crappy. But, I'm too tired to sift through them right now, so that's all you get for now.


Ginger - Jan 15, 2008 8:35:12 am PST #2446 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Ms Bug, you are a morning person. The night person period must have been was youthful experimentation.


Jessica - Jan 15, 2008 8:38:12 am PST #2447 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think it's possible that one can become, if not cheerful to mornings, at least inured to them if one has children.

That's what happened to me. I used to stay up past midnight every night and happily sleep until 10. These days I consider 7:30 "sleeping in." Stoopid babies and their stoopid circadian rhythms.