I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


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Scrappy - Dec 31, 2007 8:29:26 am PST #9952 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think "smaller portions" + "more exercise" - "snacking" = "slightly more feasible for me".

I lost 30 lbs a couple of years ago on a severe version of this. Tiny meals. I could eat what I wanted to, but the each meal had to be limited to five bites. It was basically fasting with snacks--and it was given to me by my crazy doctor. It worked, though, and once I got to my goal weight, keeping portions small (since I had been used to eating basically nothing for a couple of months) was simple. I gained back 20 lbs since my surgery, so I am going on a modified version of the diet. Very small breakfast and lunch (like a cup of fruit salad), and a normal but healthy dinner. I wants to be back into my size eight jeans by Spring.


Kristen - Dec 31, 2007 8:32:56 am PST #9953 of 10001

She tells me the whole thing about how you stop craving things and you feel full with less food and you have more energy, but I think it's a myth, like those endorphins you supposedly get from exercising.

Cravings sort of go away. Or maybe you just learn to manage them.

Week Two (?) of my diet I was craving pizza. It was the craving that would not stop. I dreamed of pizza. I went online to figure out the least caloric way I could indulge my pizza craving. (A single pizza roll would have been 35 calories. Of course, I would have to have bought a box, taken out the single pizza roll and then thrown the rest of the box away before I even got into my car.)

It took at least a week for the craving to pass as Monique can attest. Since then, I still think, "Oh, pizza sounds good," but I'm not consumed with thoughts of cheesy, saucy goodness anymore.

In fact, my first day on K-Ville, as I was leaving the office, one of the assistants was unpacking dinner (pizza) and he held up a slice -- INCHES AWAY FROM MY FACE -- and offered it to me. Somehow, I managed to back away from it and leave. Perhaps, flee would be more accurate.

This is not to say I'm always good. I've seriously cheated half a dozen times now and unseriously cheated a lot more than that. The serious ones came when I was out in the real world.

I dream of a life in Maintenance.

As for the exercise thing, I think it varies from person to person. Personally, I do have more energy and feel better now that I'm working out. But it's not a "high." In fact, I read a thing the other day that talked about the myth of the high and that most people will never experience that.

ETA:

Very small breakfast and lunch (like a cup of fruit salad), and a normal but healthy dinner.

HA! See, you illustrate the differences between people! I've learned that I need the opposite. I need to front load my calories to have more in the morning and early afternoon and then taper off as the day progresses.


Sue - Dec 31, 2007 8:37:01 am PST #9954 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Happy New Year to everyone! I am off soon for my "country home." (Okay, my friend's home.)

I have had the endorphin high, but only after hours of hiking at a fairly brisk pace. But I am always inevitably in the endorphin high place when I am also in the so tired that you can twist your ankle by tripping on a blade of grass place. So it sort of balances out.


Trudy Booth - Dec 31, 2007 8:40:10 am PST #9955 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The first few weeks I go off sugar I'll have anxiety dreams that I'm drinking kool-ade and can't stop and am fucking up my diet.

After that I still want it (and all its simple carby friends) but not nearly as much as I want them when they are part of my diet.

I love my MMA classes and will crave them and will get cranky when I miss them, but a really hard workout doesn't give me a rush so much as relax every muscle in my body and leave me completely limp. Which I really really love.


bon bon - Dec 31, 2007 8:40:59 am PST #9956 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Where's bon? FotC are on Terri Gross right now! And yes, IFG!

Ha! I assume that's a rerun, because I totally bought that from iTunes. The story about the threesome makes me laugh and laugh.


Vortex - Dec 31, 2007 8:41:35 am PST #9957 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The performer was mud ugly and all the hookers by the door were glaring at us.

yeah, they don't like it when the patrons are prettier than they are.

I have actually experienced the mythic endorphin rush. But it's a rare thing.

I had it one time. I got to the end of my route, and didn't want to stop, so I made another loop. It was nice.


Kristen - Dec 31, 2007 8:42:18 am PST #9958 of 10001

The first few weeks I go off sugar I'll have anxiety dreams that I'm drinking kool-ade and can't stop and am fucking up my diet.

Oh god. I thought this was just me. Shortly after the pizza thing, I started having dreams where I would eat something, by mistake, and then remember I was on a diet and freak out. It was like, "I can't even cheat in my DREAMS."


msbelle - Dec 31, 2007 8:46:09 am PST #9959 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

you crazy people with your different things work for different people stuff.

I am starting on a smaller portions of everything except veggies habit and will also start exercising (haven't dedicated time to that in a good 4 years) in about a week. I hoping for some weight and size loss, but mostly for feeling better.


sarameg - Dec 31, 2007 8:46:54 am PST #9960 of 10001

I will have very elaborate dreams about food when I get hungry when I'm asleep. Sadly, I cannot eat when I first wake up. I'll also have mega-frustrating dreams in which my attempts to get up, showered and dressed are all kinds of thwarted right before I wake up.

No wonder I hate waking up. Everything in my head is gearing me up for frustration.


Trudy Booth - Dec 31, 2007 8:48:03 am PST #9961 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh god. I thought this was just me. Shortly after the pizza thing, I started having dreams where I would eat something, by mistake, and then remember I was on a diet and freak out. It was like, "I can't even cheat in my DREAMS."

Sister!

I don't even like kool-ade IRL.

There is a pizza place in my neighborhood with whole wheat crusts and small slices. When I'm in bad shape I'll have a piece along with some other protien things so I don't get that icky blood sugar spike. It usually does the trick. I think the whole pizzaria aspect helps with the knock out of the craving.

If people are killing me at work with pizza I'll tell myself I can have the whole wheat if I'm still suffering when I get home, but I usually forget by then. Between that and the Guylian sugar free 70% cocoa chocolate I whip out when other people are having really nice deserts its pretty managable to stay on track.

(Can you tell I'm giving myself a pep talk? Good Girl starts again January 2nd and is hardcore until Valentine's Day.)