Mal: I call you back? Wash: No, Mal. You didn't. Zoe: I take full responsibility, cap.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 3:11:33 pm PST #6391 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Last night when I got off work my car was glazed like a donut. Are we done with the freezing rain for a while?

There is ice everywhere. I walked to a restaurant about 4 blocks away - I kept my eyes on the sidewalk so I could judge how much ice there was, and walked accordingly (ice requires that you take really short steps). An old man almost fell on his ass as he stepped out of a building.

And then on my way home I slipped a little anyway (a subconscious reaction thingy kept me from falling). Turns out the ice patch I slipped on was invisible for the angle that the streetlights were hitting it.

Bastards! (Somebody is to blame. Dunno who. Doc Martin?)


Nora Deirdre - Dec 09, 2007 3:15:05 pm PST #6392 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Yeah, the Patriots kicked some serious ass.

Also, I have made shephard's pie so I kick ass too! I did a topping of a mashed potato and turnips mixed with curried onions fried up in butter.

Waiting for Amazing Race, watching Robot Chicken. What a weird show.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 3:22:49 pm PST #6393 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Random question: How often do people decide not to have kids because of concerns about overpopulation as it relates to destruction of the environment? As in, "I would have children, but there are too many of us anyway and the planet can't support all of us and..."

I mean, I know people who've decided not to have kids for that reason - I'm wondering how common it is....


Jesse - Dec 09, 2007 3:23:45 pm PST #6394 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just realized I have to pack tonight (for a quick work trip), and then tomorrow I have to bring my bag and a box for mailing to work. Oops.


flea - Dec 09, 2007 3:26:01 pm PST #6395 of 10001
information libertarian

tommy, given the number of people who drive SUVs, I'm guessing your number is "not so many."

We thought about the environmental issue (also the Coming Apocalypse issue) but had a second kid anyway.


Wolfram - Dec 09, 2007 3:30:12 pm PST #6396 of 10001
Visilurking

For the hivemind (please, please help):

Did you ever read something that is written very clearly but for whatever reason your mind cannot understand what the writer is trying to say? I feel really stupid, but I'm reading a healthcare proposal for universal coverage, and I cannot understand one component of the financing scheme. It's basically a proposal that Medicare create a Part E to cover anyone not currently enrolled in a health plan. The part that my feeble mind keeps getting stuck on is this:

Part E is financed through a standard premium; everyone is charged the same amount. The federal gov't, however, provides a sliding-scale subsidy to help cover the cost of the premium for households whose income is below 400 percent of the federal poverty level. The level of the subsidy is based on the wage income of the household, where income is determined by how much the household pays in Medicare payroll tax. Premiums will be set so that the program breaks even, net of the subsidy.

The last sentence is what isn't coming through for me. Does this mean that the premiums will be set as if the government was not paying the subsidy, or that they will be set taking into account the government's expense in paying the subsidy?


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 3:32:14 pm PST #6397 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

We thought about the environmental issue (also the Coming Apocalypse issue) but had a second kid anyway.

Can I ask why you decided to have the kid(s) (if it's not too rude.)

I've never been in the position to decide to have kids, so the issue seems kinda' abstract to me. (I don't count my sis and her GF's kids - I see my role has "helping them out." They would have had the kids with some other dude's sperm if I had refused.)


flea - Dec 09, 2007 3:32:55 pm PST #6398 of 10001
information libertarian

I think the latter, but I'm not an economist.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 3:33:43 pm PST #6399 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Does this mean that the premiums will be set as if the government was not paying the subsidy, or that they will be set taking into account the government's expense in paying the subsidy?

I think the first one.

eta: Everyone pays the premium, and the program breaks even. The subsidy is just to help out lower income people in paying the premium.

Right?

The other way makes less sense to me....

eta2: It's the 'net of the subsidy' that's confusicating....


flea - Dec 09, 2007 3:38:55 pm PST #6400 of 10001
information libertarian

It's not too rude for me, tommy, but it's a long involved sort of answer. Short version: first child was a surprise, though we vaguely intended to have children someday. Second was planned, with factors in the decision including desire for first to have a sibling, general feelings about family size, really loving the first one and feeling we wanted another, I had an easy pregnancy and birth the first time and could hope to have the same again, plus (on the negative side) the environmental factor and the Apocalypse factor.

mr. flea really wants a third at some point; I run warm and cold on the topic. I think most people probably place their personal desires above their concern about the planet (if any). Tragedy of the Commons, yeah?