Tell me more good stuff about me.

Kaylee ,'The Message'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Dec 07, 2007 4:38:49 pm PST #6265 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Huh. The suspect in tonight's Women's Murder Club is a drag king .


Kat - Dec 07, 2007 5:33:53 pm PST #6266 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Holy. Mother. Of. God.

I am tired.

Also, no one got me a push present as defined by the NYT. Who knew having a kid or two entitled me to a gift of jewelry!

In a more innocent age, new mothers generally considered their babies to be the greatest gift imaginable. Today, they are likely to want some sort of tangible bonus as well.

This bonus goes by various names. Some call it the “baby mama gift.” Others refer to it as the “baby bauble.” But it’s most popularly known as the “push present.”

That’s “push” as in, “I the mother, having been through the wringer and pushed out this blessed event, hereby claim my reward.” Or “push” as in, “I’ve delivered something special and now I’m pushing you, my husband/boyfriend, to follow suit.”

“It’s more and more an expectation of moms these days that they deserve something for bearing the burden for nine months, getting sick, ruining their body,” said Linda Murray, executive editor of BabyCenter.com. “The guilt really gets piled on.”

A recent survey of more than 30,000 respondents by BabyCenter.com found that 38 percent of new mothers received a gift from their mate in connection with their child. Among pregnant mothers, 55 percent wanted one. About 40 percent of both groups said the baby was ample reward.


Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2007 5:40:21 pm PST #6267 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm not sure what's new about it other than the stupid name. I know lots of people with charms or whatever. Didn't Victorians give their wives pearls or something?


Susan W. - Dec 07, 2007 6:43:43 pm PST #6268 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I got a Dr Pepper, since I'd been deprived of caffeine for nearly two months, from the point I'd been put on bedrest and medication for the hypertension.

Obviously I'm a cheap incubator.


sarameg - Dec 07, 2007 6:47:09 pm PST #6269 of 10001

OK, but one of the the biggest gifs of all (if you don't get to cuddle it, and a little blurry): [link]


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2007 6:55:37 pm PST #6270 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Push present=hooey (although I had a cousin who bought herself a ring per kid-4 rings at about $20k per).

ita=still in pain but mildly hopeful of pain meds today and making it to her holiday party tomorrow.


Burrell - Dec 07, 2007 7:30:20 pm PST #6271 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

So did the hospital do ANYTHING for you? Other than force you to lie in bed, that is.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2007 7:48:32 pm PST #6272 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nope. Well, they have given me doses of reglan (anti-nausea) and dihydroergotamine every eight hours and may contionue to do so. Has no effect my pain. Maybe it makes them feel better. I'd rather be miserable at home, all told. And I'd really REALLY rather shower at home.

I have gotten to see Kat three times, and am reading Jane magazine (weird stuff) and wearing pink pyjama bottoms through her enablement. But they don't get to take credit for that. It's all her.


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2007 7:52:17 pm PST #6273 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Flux capacitor, $220: [link]


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2007 7:54:18 pm PST #6274 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Safety tip:

Inhaling aerosolized pig brains could be hazardous to your health.

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