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Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Dec 03, 2007 8:31:01 am PST #5136 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I don't want to have anything to do with implicitly supporting the message generated by DeBeers, so I eschew them altogether.

You've got to admire their marketing skills, since diamond prices are based on perceived value, rather than rarity.


hippocampus - Dec 03, 2007 8:31:21 am PST #5137 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

I was thinking quality artificial diamonds are pretty much impossible to tell from regular diamonds unless you're getting it examined by a jeweler.

Gud - true, but from the jeweler's perspective, artificial diamonds, or crack-sealed/filled diamonds are big problems. Some of them kind of explode when heated, which makes setting or re-setting them a PITA. Some jewelers have lasers that help them test for exploding stuff before they get hit with a loss.


Trudy Booth - Dec 03, 2007 8:33:42 am PST #5138 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Canadian diamonds are an option, eh.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 03, 2007 8:36:53 am PST #5139 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Because I am now earwormed, I had to filk:

He's Mister Gray Christmas, he's Mister Sleet. He's Mr. Wet Boot Sock, he's Mr. Shoot-me-now-please
They call me Wintery-Mix Miser. Whatever I touch, turns to slush in my clutch. I'm too much.


tommyrot - Dec 03, 2007 8:38:57 am PST #5140 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is there Heat Miser/Snow Miser slash?

Yeah, I could google, but it's more fun to ask here....


bon bon - Dec 03, 2007 8:40:46 am PST #5141 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You've got to admire their marketing skills, since diamond prices are based on perceived value, rather than rarity.

They arguably had the greatest marketing success in the 20th century, although abetted by a worldwide supply monopoly that kept their theme from being diluted. But yeah, diamonds aren't rare at all.


JZ - Dec 03, 2007 8:40:48 am PST #5142 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

if I see one more goddamn diamond commercial Ima shoot the TV. DIAMONDS ARE NOT SUBSTITUTES FOR EXPRESSING LOVE.

99% of the time I'm with you, and with erika about the filthy blood-soaked history of the diamond industry, but I must admit that there's one ad that has actually made me want to run out and spend money on a diamond. However, it's a radio ad for Shreve Jewelers that's so aggressively stupidly written that it makes me want to spend an assload of money on someone else's diamonds, then go rub Shreve's nose in the receipt like a bad puppy.

The ad is a long pointless narrative about rekindling the romance of a bygone era through the purchase of diamonds. A glorious time "of hoop skirts and carriage rides through the park, when love symbolized something truly important in a young woman's life." A) The entire ad is like all the worst tropes of ineptly-written Regency romance clumped into 25 soggy seconds, and B) LOVE HAS NEVER SYMBOLIZED ANYTHING IN ALL OF RECORDED HUMAN HISTORY, DUMBSHITS. OTHER THINGS SYMBOLIZE LOVE. Jesus wept!


Sophia Brooks - Dec 03, 2007 8:41:24 am PST #5143 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Is there Heat Miser/Snow Miser slash?

I'm not sure if I am more disturbed by the thought of that in cartoon version, or the Harvey Fiersten/Michael McKean live action version.


megan walker - Dec 03, 2007 8:48:43 am PST #5144 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

They arguably had the greatest marketing success in the 20th century...

Well, in the US at least. And maybe Japan? I know Europe hasn't really bought into the whole diamond engagement ring thing.

I once met someone who had worked in the sorting houses in Amsterdam and he said that it was crazy how the system worked. Value was so subjective that stones were sorted depending on where they were going, like, the US market values these characteristics so we'll send them these kinds of diamonds, Japan values this, so we'll send them these, etc.


amych - Dec 03, 2007 8:51:08 am PST #5145 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Value was so subjective that stones were sorted depending on where they were going, like, the US market values these characteristics so we'll send them these kinds of diamonds, Japan values this, so we'll send them these, etc.

See, to me, this sounds like the sanest part of the whole hoop-de-hoodle.