Angel: Eve. So, I guess we should, I don't know, talk? Eve: About what? Angel: About what happened back there with us. Eve: Angel, it's not like this is the first time I've had sex under a mystical influence. I went to U.C. Santa Cruz.

'Life of the Party'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 30, 2007 2:26:47 pm PST #4865 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Actually, in other towel news, I bought some of these for a wedding gift recently, and they are unbelievabley soft and awesome and on sale, and most of my current towels are many years old, so. Hmm. I should tell my grandmother to get me that for Christmas. (Although, she would never take direction that clearly and I'd probably end up with something weird.)


Cashmere - Nov 30, 2007 2:27:04 pm PST #4866 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I want to dry my ass on $100 towels.

We're watching Shrek the Halls and boy, is it funny!


Jesse - Nov 30, 2007 2:28:37 pm PST #4867 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Have I mentioned here about how I want to get married so I can get all new housewares? A lifetime of love and partnership? Pfft. New towels and flatware and everything? BRING IT.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2007 2:30:49 pm PST #4868 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I have a generic monthly budget template in excel if you want me to send it.

Sure! Profile addy is good.

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who's dealt with stuff like this. Debt, for me, was the subject of the Mom-lectures when I was growing up that I think a lot of people got for grades, weight, or appearance, which is a big part of why I'm carrying around such a colossal guilt burden on this issue.


megan walker - Nov 30, 2007 2:37:53 pm PST #4869 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I will send as soon as I get home tonight.

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who's dealt with stuff like this.

You are so not alone. My parents never had debt of any kind. Ever. If they couldn't pay cash, they didn't buy it. I should know better.

And my sister is rich, and not at all sympathetic.


javachik - Nov 30, 2007 2:42:39 pm PST #4870 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Happy Birthday to Princess Em!!

Susan, a lot of have gone through it; nothing to be ashamed about. Looks like you're on the right track.

Re: the wedding gifts. My boyfriend and I were discussing this recently and he's of the mind of having no registry and seriously telling people no gifts. He's quite a bit older than I am, and was married for a brief period in his 20's. He lives like a grad student still, even though he's in his 50's (grad student: broken mismatched furniture and no matching anything--dishes, or towels) and has $$$ in the bank. I have always been sort of of the mind of having no registry, and downplaying the gifts, too. But then the selfish part of me started adding up ALL of the wedding, bridal shower, baby showers, etc gifts I've given. And I guess part of me happily participates (including being a bridesmaid four times, and throwing five separate baby showers) knowing that one day, it'll be my turn.

I realized something ugly about myself: I've been looking forward to the "my turn" and was disappointed to think it might not happen.

I am ashamed but there you go.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2007 2:45:14 pm PST #4871 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

What I realized only recently was that Mom's lectures were so emphatic because she and Dad had been there, when they were first married and quickly had three small kids while Dad wasn't making much money. By the time I came along they owned the land and the house, Dad was a union electrician, and they were generally doing well in a blue collar, rural middle class way. But I didn't know the backstory; I just absorbed the idea that debt was something that only happened to people with no self-control or responsibility.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2007 2:48:24 pm PST #4872 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

ION, my baby is growing up.

We've always called her Boo, at least when we're not calling her Annabel, AB, or Anna-boo. Today when DH called her Boo, she said, "My name is Annabel." He tried to explain that she was his Boo, but she just reiterated, "But I'm not Boo. I'm Annabel."


megan walker - Nov 30, 2007 2:52:20 pm PST #4873 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

It sounds like when my nephew explained to me that he couldn't hug anyone but his Mom and Dad anymore (which lasted all of a day, until he fell down and came running towards me crying and with arms outstretched).


msbelle - Nov 30, 2007 3:01:23 pm PST #4874 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Jesse - I say you put a few of the things you would want on the registry on your Christmas list. seriously. It's why I now have some pieces of crystal - I put them on my list because future wedding or not, I want some nice things.

I have started asking for things as gifts that will reduce some regular out of pocket expenses for me: a month of Y membership, gift cards, replacement clothes (clothes outgrown/worn out/stained)...

Flea, share your top 10.