Fred: Oh my God! Angel, you're…cute! Angel: Fred, don't! Fred: Oh, but the little hands! And the hair! Angel: Hey! You're fired.

'Smile Time'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Nov 15, 2007 8:38:58 am PST #2468 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Happy Birthday, sumi!


msbelle - Nov 15, 2007 8:40:33 am PST #2469 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am unfocused and craving food that is not readily available in my house.

OTOH, mac choose a righteously nasty day to have his fever, so thank dog I don't have to be out in it.


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2007 8:40:55 am PST #2470 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think it is more the attitude of "I'm going to vote for someone who shares my values" rather than "I'm not going to vote for a Jew". Maybe it boils down to the same thing, but the first one sounds more reasonable. I think the crazy part is the assumption of a direct correlation between religious affiliation and values.

I don't care if I vote for someone who worships Satan in his/her personal life. You really just kind of have to take someone's word for what they believe.

Now, do his/her actions match up with my ideals of equal rights for everybody, fair wages, fair housing etc. Other than that be a member of Church What Thinks We All Were Barfed Up In A Giant Kitty's Hairball.


megan walker - Nov 15, 2007 8:44:26 am PST #2471 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Happy Birthday Sumi!


Sue - Nov 15, 2007 8:50:40 am PST #2472 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I am still hungry and I have eaten all my food. Also, I forgot my wallet this morning and have to meet my old co-workers for drinks after work. Le Sigh.


Trudy Booth - Nov 15, 2007 8:55:27 am PST #2473 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

In my experience, part of the "Not a real Christian" thing comes from an ethos where people are Christians or they are Not Christians. There are only two choices. So its less an analysis of the specific expression of faith than a "are they us or them" sort of thing. And Not Christians are pretty much all the same as one another cred-wise. (and that cred can vary wildly among the assessor) In that dichotomy a Catholic, a Mormon, a Jew, a Muslim, a Wicca or even a Presbyterian such as myself who believes in ::gasp:: evolution is in the Not Christian category.

(Eventually I got used to being described as "not really a Christian" by some of my more country classmates. Its like Jews who go to Utah and find out that they're Gentiles.)

What always cracked me up the phenomenon that saying someone is a "Good Christian" is tantamount to saying they are a good person. Like, even if they aren't actually a Christian. "I like Dr. Greenberg, he's a good Christian" is a perfectly cromulent thing to say.


Nutty - Nov 15, 2007 9:04:03 am PST #2474 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Its like Jews who go to Utah and find out that they're Gentiles.

No, YOU'RE a gentile! No, YOU are!


JZ - Nov 15, 2007 9:08:03 am PST #2475 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The only people who get to claim that Catholics aren't Christian are the Eastern Orthodox, and that's more of a "Mooooooom! She's touching me!!" type of issue.

Ah-ha-ha! This is a lovely variation on how the Orthodox priest who married my parents described it; he described the two as identical twin sisters who got in an incredibly petty fight ages ago, neither one would back down, and they haven't spoken since -- although they still look and dress and talk alike and have all the same friends. They're still bent out of shape over the original fight, and everyone who knows both of them is all, "Okay, whatever, you're completely different and YOU are SO RIGHT" while @@ing like crazy behind both their backs.

But I think he'd like "Mooooooom! She's touching me!!" even better.


Sue - Nov 15, 2007 9:09:59 am PST #2476 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I'm pretty sure that when Steph talked about her time in the FAC, she said she didn't see Catholics as Christian.


tommyrot - Nov 15, 2007 9:27:14 am PST #2477 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Man in India Marries Dog As Atonement

NEW DELHI — A man in southern India married a female dog in a traditional Hindu ceremony as an attempt to atone for stoning two other dogs to death — an act he believes cursed him — a newspaper reported Tuesday.

P. Selvakumar married the sari-draped former stray named Selvi, chosen by family members and then bathed and clothed for the ceremony Sunday at a Hindu temple in the southern state of Tamil Nadu, the Hindustan Times newspaper said.

Selvakumar, 33, told the paper he had been suffering since he stoned two dogs to death and hung their bodies from a tree 15 years ago.

"After that my legs and hands got paralyzed and I lost hearing in one ear," he said in the report.

The paper said an astrologer had told Selvakumar the wedding was the only way he could cure the maladies. It did not say whether his situation had improved.