No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Nov 14, 2007 6:55:14 am PST #2222 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Oh, Robin, that sucks! Put your visitors on bucket duty. Give them an adventure story to remember!

(It is possible I am not the best host.)


Gudanov - Nov 14, 2007 6:56:27 am PST #2223 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Welcome to bon bon's, here's your bucket.


lisah - Nov 14, 2007 7:01:13 am PST #2224 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I told J that we now had our first Homeowner Disaster story, and no one got hurt in it, so that was cool.

Oh, poor you guys! Yeah, home ownership is sometimes Not awesome!


Aims - Nov 14, 2007 7:02:08 am PST #2225 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Welcome to bon bon's, here's your bucket.

Act nice, or she'll take it away.


megan walker - Nov 14, 2007 7:06:53 am PST #2226 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

she had offended me by not visiting me. but, she does that every year

Tell me about it, I finally had to move out here.

Juliana also offended me that time wine came out of her nose. Oh, wait, that was Suzi. My bad.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 14, 2007 7:20:36 am PST #2227 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Act nice, or she'll take it away.

Saw that coming a mile away...


juliana - Nov 14, 2007 7:21:55 am PST #2228 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

she had offended me by not visiting me. but, she does that every year

I swear, as soon as I get that funding for a film crew to follow me around as I motorcycle about the country, I'll visit you.


Vortex - Nov 14, 2007 7:23:04 am PST #2229 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I swear, as soon as I get that funding for a film crew to follow me around as I motorcycle about the country, I'll visit you.

or you could just show up and I'll drive you around . . .


Strega - Nov 14, 2007 7:24:43 am PST #2230 of 10001

To which I also say, "How did the freaking fake guns and drugs get onto school property???"

From everything I can find, they weren't. Other pictures on their MySpace page were taken at the school, but not those.

According to The Associated Press, the students expulsion took place on November 7th after a parent sent a letter to Belleville High School officials complaining about the teenagers posting pictures of themselves ‘scowling around a pool table laid out with long-barreled guns, and holding a half-filled baggy and a handgun in the back of a limo’.

One of the arguments made was that the limo was one that they took to a school dance, and they had the toy gun in the limo, maybe they had it at the dance. That's as close as they can get to having anything on school property.

The school board found that they were guilty of "possessing look-alike weapons and drugs, gang activity and intimidation." As far as I can tell, all based on these photos on MySpace. Different articles use "suspended," "expelled," and "banned" so I'm not quite sure, but it sounds like five kids were expelled for the rest of the school year; two others were suspended for a week or two. I think that's what's behind the suit. I could see giving them all a suspension for violating rules and being foolish, but missing a full year of school because of this?

This is part of the superintendant's explanation:

Lazaroff said that another photo that shows the students in the school gym making what looks like gang hand signals are what allowed the district to take action. "If you show me a table of kids with guns and narcotics in a home - I can't do anything - unless I can have a link to gang activity on school grounds."
In the gym photo, two of the students were also wearing red, which Lazaroff said could be a sign of gang affiliation. One of the two had a red jacket and the other was wearing a red hat.
Students who were sitting around the table but were not in the gym photo could not be banned from the school, Lazaroff said. The boy whose house the photo of the guns was taken at was not banned from school because he wasn't in the gym photo, the superintendent said.

As best I can tell, because of these photos they think that either 1) the kids actually are in a gang, or 2) are pretending to be in a gang so well that actual gang members, who often go poking around on MySpace, will be fooled, come to the school and kill everyone.


Steph L. - Nov 14, 2007 7:34:14 am PST #2231 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

In the gym photo, two of the students were also wearing red, which Lazaroff said could be a sign of gang affiliation. One of the two had a red jacket and the other was wearing a red hat.

As best I can tell, because of these photos they think that either 1) the kids actually are in a gang, or 2) are pretending to be in a gang so well that actual gang members, who often go poking around on MySpace, will be fooled, come to the school and kill everyone.

Is the Van Buren school system near Detroit? I ask that because unless the school system has a history of gangs, then it doesn't seem like "wearing red" and/or pretending to be in a gang is serious enough to warrant expulsion.

If there's an issue with Detroit gangs, then I can see more of a potential problem. (Although, honestly, I still think expulsion was overreaction.)