Gunn: We open a can of Machiavelli on his ass. Harmony: It's Matchabelli, Einstein, and it doesn't come in a can.

'Soul Purpose'


Firefly 5: That's my girl... That's my good girl.

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe.


Morgana - Mar 19, 2008 4:23:38 pm PDT #1945 of 5292
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I'm migraining, so I'm all in favor of waiting until next week.


omnis_audis - Mar 19, 2008 4:25:23 pm PDT #1946 of 5292
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

think the motion has passed. Next week it is.


libkitty - Mar 19, 2008 4:26:53 pm PDT #1947 of 5292
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

taps the gavel, but very quietly because of the migraine beast.


BigDuluth - Mar 19, 2008 4:54:56 pm PDT #1948 of 5292
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

Mmk I'm down for next week folks!


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2008 6:17:39 am PDT #1949 of 5292
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My friend Seanan has a nice little story.


beekaytee - Mar 20, 2008 7:14:27 am PDT #1950 of 5292
Compassionately intolerant

That's lovely.

A very straight laced journalist friend of a friend of mine used gorram in a sentence at a party. He looked as if he had startled himself by letting that slip and then looked around to see what reactions he was getting. I smiled and, soto voce, said, "shiny." He beamed.


CaBil - Mar 20, 2008 7:18:41 pm PDT #1951 of 5292
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

A few people know I have been hired to write an adventure for the Serenity RPG, and I thought I would through this into the hivemind to see if anyone has any answers for something my editor and I are struggling over. While this is a background detail, it dovetails into one of the plot points that drives the scenario.

When people fled Earth-That-Was for the 'Verse was it ever explicitly stated anywhere whether Earth was completely abandoned or if there was a sizable percentage of the population left behind? Looking Earth's population curves (we are looking at least 10 billion by 2100) and based on the line Earth was 'used up' I was thinking there just wasn't resources to do a complete excavation, and there were people left behind. But other than one shot in Serenity (it didn't look like there were tens of thousands of ships leaving Earth-That-Was) I can't find anything substantive.

Any help would be appreciated.


sumi - Mar 20, 2008 8:11:13 pm PDT #1952 of 5292
Art Crawl!!!

I think that they said that Earth was abandoned. . . but I always thought that there had to be people left behind. (In my head - that's where the Fray-verse and the FF-verse connect.)


Laga - Mar 20, 2008 8:25:51 pm PDT #1953 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I figure Earth's evacuation was as successful as any. In other words: a few hold-outs could not be moved, many perished.


Miracleman - Mar 21, 2008 4:32:09 am PDT #1954 of 5292
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

They never explicitly stated that Earth was completely abandoned. It was kinda implied in the cheesy opening voice-overs both for the series and the movie.

There is this translation of the shadow show going on in the background when Mal meets the Bad Guy in "Heart of Gold":

CIRCULAR SHADOW representing Earth-That-Was fills the frame.

NARRATOR (Chinese): Little by little, the tribes used the Earth up. Barren, she had little left to offer them.

Silhouetted shapes appear. SPACESHIPS. They radiate out from the shadow sphere, scatter in all directions. Leave it behind.

NARRATOR: Swollen of her, they left. And for the first time since the Great Burn that birthed her, she was alone.

The ships are gone now. A wisp of SMOKE wafts off the sphere, creates a snake of shadow.

NARRATOR: The Earth cried, and terrible were her tears. Acid and caustic, the spawn of the tribes' rape. They flowed a century.

The smoke INTENSIFIES, becomes shadowy FLAME.

NARRATOR: The fire that finally came did so as a blessing.

The sphere SMOLDERS now, bits of it breaking up and disintegrating under the intense heat.

Which strongly implies either a) complete evacuation or b) anybody left behind is dead dead deadski now.