Ye is archaic, but was early modern English second person plural.Yes, but so is "you." That's the confusing thing about you/ye--they're both early modern English second person plural.
I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.
Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'
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Pix - Nov 05, 2007 7:01:40 pm PST #2778 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
-t - Nov 05, 2007 7:02:21 pm PST #2779 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
This site: [link] says "ye" was the subject and "you" was the object form of the plural. Which I should be able to parse. You would think. Er, ye would. I implore you. Hm.
Pix - Nov 05, 2007 7:03:40 pm PST #2780 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
Ah! Cleared up. I never paid much attention to subject/object for second person plural. I shall have to check a couple Shakespeares to see if that plays out.
In meme news, I am really friggin' glad that today is over. It wasn't a bad day, but it was exhausting. I graded a lot as the kidlets took tests today, but then I gave two make-up tests and tutored (and that did not go especially well and I didn't get paid today because her husband wasn't home to write the check @@), and I'm thinking an hour of reading and bed bed bed is called for.
juliana - Nov 05, 2007 7:06:26 pm PST #2781 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Is there a difference between "you" as a plural and "ye" as a plural?
From Wikipedia: 'Originally "ye" and "thou" were nominative pronouns, while "you" and "thee" were accusative forms,'
Pix - Nov 05, 2007 7:07:21 pm PST #2782 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
t tacklehugs juliana
-t - Nov 05, 2007 7:09:31 pm PST #2783 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I didn't get paid today because her husband wasn't home to write the check @@
Oh that's just ridiculous. Come one, people. Don't do that.
-t - Nov 05, 2007 7:11:10 pm PST #2784 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Funny, I think I learned how to use thou, thee and thy from the bible, but I didn't pick up on you and ye at all.
juliana - Nov 05, 2007 7:12:46 pm PST #2785 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
t smooches Kristin
No fire tonight. I count that as a win. I think I'll go to bed now.
Pix - Nov 05, 2007 7:13:13 pm PST #2786 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
Oh that's just ridiculous. Come on, people. Don't do that.Yeah, it annoyed me. I know my tutoring fee is peanuts to them, but it's my weekly spending money, dammit.
ETA: Night, love.
Ginger - Nov 05, 2007 7:16:02 pm PST #2787 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Ya I know, no medals given for finally doing housework.
I'd give someone a medal for doing mine.
In Middle to early modern English, ye was the second person plural subjective, as in "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free," while you was the objective case, which is only slightly less confusing. Old English was much more declined, so the case would be a better clue than it is today. It also made it a bitch to learn.
eta: Curse your geeky but inevitable crossposts.