On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Oct 26, 2007 9:16:57 am PDT #8782 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Indeed. Thanks for sharing it, Liese.


flea - Oct 26, 2007 9:19:36 am PDT #8783 of 10001
information libertarian

Now, do I have the nerve to email it to my mother?

Also, how does one say to one's parent, still young (under 60) but you know, you never know, "So, my grandparents died and I wish I knew more about what life was like for them in their childhoods/early adulthood. Would you consider writing up something, or giving me an interview?"


Kathy A - Oct 26, 2007 9:22:07 am PDT #8784 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

"So, my grandparents died and I wish I knew more about what life was like for them in their childhoods/early adulthood. Would you consider writing up something, or giving me an interview?"

"I'm thinking of doing a family history. Can you give me some info on those members of our family that have passed away, starting with your parents?"


Vortex - Oct 26, 2007 9:24:35 am PDT #8785 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

but how do you bring that up? I mean, really.

maybe something like "Grandma, I hate to bring this up, but I need to know what you want us to do in case you are not in a position to make decisions for yourself."


megan walker - Oct 26, 2007 9:35:12 am PDT #8786 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

But how do you bring that up? I mean, really.

Personally, I brought it up by doing my own and talking to my father about who would be my "pull the plug" person. And I was really happy when the time came that we had had the conversation.

And, honestly, why would you insist your parent/grandparent do it and not be considering it for yourself?

Luckily, I all seem to have friends that are quite happy at the idea of pulling my plug.


Emily - Oct 26, 2007 9:50:04 am PDT #8787 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

And, honestly, why would you insist your parent/grandparent do it and not be considering it for yourself?

No lawyer?

I just had to sign off on my dad's power of attorney, advance medical directive, and will, since I'm essentially the only agent who'll be in the country. We call them the "sell the house while I'm overseas, pull my plug and keep the preacher away, and get all the money" documents.

And my mother did hers after her husband had a stroke and the only person who could legally access his bank accounts (and thus pay his bills) was in Morocco.


tommyrot - Oct 26, 2007 10:03:14 am PDT #8788 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

New atheist symbol: [link]

I didn't see the need for it, and the designs I saw I didn't like, but this one's cool. Because it's shiny.


Tom Scola - Oct 26, 2007 10:04:22 am PDT #8789 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Isn't that the symbol for anarchy?


Sophia Brooks - Oct 26, 2007 10:07:51 am PDT #8790 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It actually looks like a cross between the symbol for Anarchy and the @ sign.


tommyrot - Oct 26, 2007 10:08:32 am PDT #8791 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's close.

Maybe anarchy would have caught on if its symbol was made of chrome.