I know, world in peril and we have to work together. This is my last office romance, I'll tell you that.

Buffy ,'End of Days'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Pix - Oct 08, 2007 12:34:31 pm PDT #5678 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Such cute babies!

I, too, have a librarian question. Could someone point me to reliable statistics about religion in the world? Roughly how many people are Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Buddhist/Hindu/etc. etc.? Bonus points if you can help me to find the same statistics for the USA.

And yes, I'm being lazy, and I will totally do my own research if you're too busy!


Jesse - Oct 08, 2007 12:54:43 pm PDT #5679 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh -- here's the info I got at work on Canadian Thanksgiving:

“In Canada Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday in October. Unlike the American tradition of remembering Pilgrims and settling in the New World, Canadians give thanks for a successful harvest. The harvest season falls earlier in Canada compared to the United States due to the simple fact that Canada is further north.

The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an English explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Orient. He did not succeed but he did establish a settlement in Northern America. In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now called Newfoundland, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This is considered the first Canadian Thanksgiving. Other settlers arrived and continued these ceremonies. He was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him - Frobisher Bay.

At the same time, French settlers, having crossed the ocean and arrived in Canada with explorer Samuel de Champlain, also held huge feasts of thanks. They even formed 'The Order of Good Cheer' and gladly shared their food with their Indian neighbours.

After the Seven Year's War ended in 1763, the citizens of Halifax held a special day of Thanksgiving.

During the American Revolution, Americans who remained loyal to England moved to Canada where they brought the customs and practices of the American Thanksgiving to Canada. There are many similarities between the two Thanksgivings such as the cornucopia and the pumpkin pie.

Eventually in 1879, Parliament declared November 6th a day of Thanksgiving and a national holiday. Over the years many dates were used for Thanksgiving, the most popular was the 3rd Monday in October. After World War I, both Armistice Day and Thanksgiving were celebrated on the Monday of the week in which November 11th occurred. Ten years later, in 1931, the two days became separate holidays and Armistice Day was renamed Remembrance Day.

Finally, on January 31st, 1957, Parliament proclaimed...

"A Day of General Thanksgiving to Almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed ... to be observed on the 2nd Monday in October.”


megan walker - Oct 08, 2007 12:58:13 pm PDT #5680 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The harvest season falls earlier in Canada compared to the United States due to the simple fact that Canada is further north.

As if our harvest actually falls in November...


Sue - Oct 08, 2007 1:02:25 pm PDT #5681 of 10001
hip deep in pie

In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now called Newfoundland, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This is considered the first Canadian Thanksgiving. Other settlers arrived and continued these ceremonies. He was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him - Frobisher Bay.

Otherwise known as, "Thank God we're off that boat." You know, I've never even known we had a first Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is not really mythologized here the way it is in the US. There's no breaking bread with the Indians, or any real historical ties. It's like, "Have the day off and stuff yourself with Turkey! Brought to you by Butterball."


Sue - Oct 08, 2007 1:20:21 pm PDT #5682 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Kat, I have that same problem with Scrabulous on my home computer. It may be my version of Flash is old, but I also have a very old version of Firefox running and I think it's one of the two.


Theodosia - Oct 08, 2007 1:23:14 pm PDT #5683 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Anyway, she typed practically, a Canadian Thanksgiving would have featured seal meat, and um, maple syrup.


sarameg - Oct 08, 2007 1:27:43 pm PDT #5684 of 10001

Today's work is done. Very crudely executed, but done.

I hate being at the bottom of the learning curve.


Theodosia - Oct 08, 2007 1:33:29 pm PDT #5685 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Here in the land of school, we celebrated Wherethehellami Day, or at least I did by driving from PA to MA with only one serious slowdown between here and there.

I've been too tired to actually eat, but I'll fix that soon.


Jesse - Oct 08, 2007 1:57:40 pm PDT #5686 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Can I just say, I hate this weather? It's too darn hot!


§ ita § - Oct 08, 2007 1:58:38 pm PDT #5687 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just bumped into Burrell's DH.