I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Stephanie - Oct 01, 2007 8:30:44 am PDT #4206 of 10001
Trust my rage

that's unexpected.

I know. I forgot to mention most places also sell something like Cream-of-Wheat and a Cream-of-Corn for breakfast.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2007 8:32:30 am PDT #4207 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Grrr. Know what I hate?

At the Just For Laughs festival we'd joke that the Uptown in Uptown Comedy show was code for Negro comedy.

Maybe it was. Not sure who named the show, but dollars to doughnuts it was a white Canadian guy. I don't think there are uptowns in Canada. Well, not ones that aren't white and affluent, which was so much not the demographic as the show (there was one white NZer who peformed at the show, and many of his jokes were "Why am I here?" ones).

Apparently "Urban Comics" means black folk. You know that 616 universe Storm. Total hood rat. I mean, she's urban in the sense that she was an Egyptian street thief as a pre-teen, but she went on to be worshipped as a goddess by an as-yet-undetailed tribe out in the unpaved lands.

When I decided in 2006 to launch UVC magazine for comic book fans, we were clear about one purpose. To showcase the many characters of color in comic books

Yeah. Because there aren't any urban white or Asian people.


Toddson - Oct 01, 2007 8:32:58 am PDT #4208 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

A while back tommyrot posted the picture of the big pink bunny. Clicking around, I spotted this. It's "The Guardian" ... with an iPod!


Trudy Booth - Oct 01, 2007 8:33:52 am PDT #4209 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I've lived in New York City for 18 years... it is odd to me that I am not considered "urban".


Jesse - Oct 01, 2007 8:35:58 am PDT #4210 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Everyone knows "urban" means "black," ita. Sheesh.

Here in PR, oatmeal is everywhere - you can even get it at McDonalds. It's usually a bit sweeter than I like but it's very convenient - especially when your two-year-old loves it.

A former coworker spent some time at a language school in Guatemala (?) last year, and her host family kept offering her Quaker, and she had no idea... until they showed her the actual container. Because of course they were pronouncing Quaker en espanol -- more like quah-care.


brenda m - Oct 01, 2007 8:36:26 am PDT #4211 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Urban as code for black goes back a while - Network television demographers, IIRC, may have originated it.

[Aside from the Simpsons, context long forgotten:

Lenny: "Pick me, I'm Lenny!

Carl: "Pick me, I'm the urban Lenny!"]


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2007 8:40:49 am PDT #4212 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know why it irks me more when black people use racial euphemisms than when white people do. But why the fuck do they have to do it?

Then again I have a general beef with descriptions of identity that leave the language with fewer words or fewer ways to be specific.

And that's before you get politically correct.

Porridge is pretty big in Jamaica, or was--we certainly didn't have much cereal growing up. For the kids it was oatmeal or cream of wheat. My father liked cornmeal best, and our dogs were fed leftovers tossed into hot cornmeal porridge every night.


brenda m - Oct 01, 2007 8:42:43 am PDT #4213 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Mmmm, now I want cornmeal mush.


lisah - Oct 01, 2007 8:45:24 am PDT #4214 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

mmm I love hot breakfast cereals of all varieties.

I had catfish and mashed potatoes for lunch and I am starving still. WTF?


Connie Neil - Oct 01, 2007 8:46:07 am PDT #4215 of 10001
brillig

Mmmm, now I want cornmeal mush.

Oh, god, mush. I have no idea how my Grandma did it, but I cannot recreate it.