Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?

'The Message'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Sep 24, 2007 6:08:31 am PDT #2429 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Some other classic furniture design tattoos: [link]

ETA: he's a furniture design major: [link]


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2007 6:09:10 am PDT #2430 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

what's the point of (even nice) furniture tattooed on one's body.

Maybe it'd be cool if it was some anthropomorphisized furniture, running into battle while holding a sword over its head.

Hmmm... couldn't find any such images on google....


brenda m - Sep 24, 2007 6:22:11 am PDT #2431 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

it has *nothing* to do with providing decoration for all the guys to whom my tattoo says "Fuck me in the ass!!!"

Wait, what?


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2007 6:22:44 am PDT #2432 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

*do* guys really think that's what a woman's lower-back tattoo means?

From what I can tell, even if it doesn't mean that, it makes many guys think that. However, I have not been able to discern what else (like, say, just seeing a woman from behind) makes these same guys think that too.

I think the furniture tats are going to remain in the "okay, whatever" realm for me. They're too...I don't know. I don't think they look nice, and the jump to meaning is too far for me to make with the wearer.

I don't expect anyone else to dig my tat, so it's not a condemnation of any sort.


Aims - Sep 24, 2007 6:24:13 am PDT #2433 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

From Wiki:

Beginning in the late 1990s the 'lower back tattoo', known in slang as a "tramp stamp", "ass antlers,"[1] or the "back-door bullseye" became popular especially among young women. Lower back tattoos are often oblong in shape, following the slope of the back on either side of the woman's spine. The lower back tattoo is body decoration with the intent of emphasizing sexual attractiveness. Generally, a lower back tattoo will be designed to emphasize the shape and curvature of the female figure. While such tattoos have become increasingly popular and accepted in recent years in many parts of the world especially the west, they remain an object of derision in some quarters. Detractors consider such tattoos in this location as suggestive of promiscuity and an indication of Raunch Culture.[2]


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2007 6:25:42 am PDT #2434 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What is "Raunch Culture" and why does it get capitalized?


Nora Deirdre - Sep 24, 2007 6:27:04 am PDT #2435 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I was just going to ask that, tommy!


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2007 6:33:51 am PDT #2436 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The origins of the term:

Men, you can relax. You are no longer the enemy. Instead, judging by recent events in America, modern feminists have a much shapelier target in their sights - other women. Specifically, scantily clad women who use their sexuality to get ahead. I don't know if this is a PR campaign to get men to finally pay attention to the cause, but it's certainly stirring up trouble.

It all kicked off with the publication of Female Chauvinist Pigs, a rant against "raunch culture" by the New York magazine writer Ariel Levy. In the book, she argues that the recent trend for soft-porn styling in everything from music videos to popular TV is reducing female sexuality to its basest levels. In short: "A tawdry, tarty, cartoon-like version of female sexuality has become so ubiquitous, it no longer seems particular."

Which is all fair enough, until Levy starts to list the ways in which today's women are allowing their sexuality to be sold short. Thongs, for example. Crop tops. Lap-dancing classes. Maxim and FHM. Playboy T-shirts. The word "chick". Levy thinks raunch culture is a feminist movement gone terribly wrong. We are, in her eyes, doing all these things merely to show the men that we are "one of the guys" and "liberated and rebellious". Naturally, she finds this confusing. "Why is labouring to look like Pamela Anderson empowering?"

eta: The rest of the article argues against Ariel Levy and other critics of "raunch culture".

[link]


shrift - Sep 24, 2007 6:48:22 am PDT #2437 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Urf. I have sleep deprivation cancer this morning.


Jessica - Sep 24, 2007 6:57:33 am PDT #2438 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Tramp stamp" falls into the same mental arena for me as "wifebeater" -- the literal meanings/origins just don't ping me on any level even if I can acknowledge their unsavoriness intellectually.