These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


DebetEsse - Feb 20, 2013 7:35:42 am PST #9609 of 11831
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Right? I mean, I am reading it as a necessity of the No Privacy situation, but it's still weird.


askye - Feb 20, 2013 7:45:43 am PST #9610 of 11831
Thrive to spite them

My take is it's just a habit. Castle has called Beckett "Kate" before they got together but she rarely called him Rick.

Of course the show did do the weird switch from using Javi to Espo as a nickname for Espisoto for no apparent reason.


le nubian - Feb 22, 2013 12:45:13 pm PST #9611 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

"Person of Interest" has become a really interesting show this season. I have been surprised by it and felt that the episode quality has remained pretty strong this year.

I thought last night's episode was fantastic. Did any of you see it?


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 2:36:31 pm PST #9612 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not Boxed Set?


sj - Feb 22, 2013 2:51:07 pm PST #9613 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I thought last night's episode was fantastic. Did any of you see it?

I haven't seen it yet, but I am hoping there is more Amy Acker this week.

It's not Boxed Set?

I think we have mostly discussed it here in the past. The sci-fi aspect has been pretty minor to the show as a whole.


sj - Feb 22, 2013 4:35:18 pm PST #9614 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Now I've seen it. Excellent episode! I love that they were will to take the risk of having both stars play such a minor role in the episode.


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 7:57:34 pm PST #9615 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't the sci fi the engine of the show? If the machine isn't intelligent, there's no there there.


sj - Feb 23, 2013 5:02:19 am PST #9616 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

True, but the machine is usually mentioned once per episode, as in "The machine has given us a new number", and that's about it. From there it's a procedural formula all the way. It just doesn't seem very sci-fi to me, and looking back over the thread you have posted here about it in the past too.


§ ita § - Feb 23, 2013 7:10:48 am PST #9617 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They've given more focus on the personality of the machine in recent episodes, which is why I've come to appreciate the inherent science fictional elements. it's not a black box spitting out the problem of the week. It's a character, and it's also a prize, with Root in the chase.

Me being wrong before doesn't affect my conviction now.


sj - Feb 23, 2013 7:39:15 am PST #9618 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I didn't realize you were proposing it should be moved to Boxed Set from your previous statement but that it has always been considered a Boxed Set show, which it hasn't in the past. If people would rather post about it in Boxed Set than Procedurals, I don't have a problem with that, but I am not really convinced it belongs there.