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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - May 18, 2012 10:34:58 am PDT #8927 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

if you didn't know that she wasn't coming back, it was a spoiler.

I'd say it's not a spoiler, it was news. That's when they told it to you, so why doesn't it stop being spoilery?

I mean, by our spoiler rules it wasn't one the minute the information appeared on the screen. Just the same as if it'd been covered in a trailer.

I am not entirely sure what to think of The Mentalist right now. That season finale was both dark and random, and how much more can they up the Red John stakes without becoming ridiculous? Oh...


-t - May 18, 2012 10:46:58 am PDT #8928 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Maybe it wasn't a spoiler, exactly, but it was distracting for me and undercut all the scenes of her talking about what she might or might not do. I say it was a poor choice.


Ginger - May 18, 2012 11:10:21 am PDT #8929 of 11831
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It was also in the TV Guide description.


§ ita § - May 18, 2012 11:14:42 am PDT #8930 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's impossible for me to know whose choice it was to put it up there, but NBC as a group wasn't keeping it a secret that she was leaving--like Ginger mentions, and I'd also seen articles covering it weeks ago (I think she was signed to something else for next season? Don't know if it worked out). I had no real reason to think it was supposed to be a source of any sort of tension, and the scenes played out for me like she was definitely going to do it, but how was she going to break it to the team?

(Or she was going to die before she had a chance--that was also possible)


sj - May 18, 2012 2:48:48 pm PDT #8931 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Amy Acker was great on Persons of Interest.


Kristen - May 19, 2012 10:11:59 pm PDT #8932 of 11831

I am not entirely sure what to think of The Mentalist right now. That season finale was both dark and random, and how much more can they up the Red John stakes without becoming ridiculous? Oh...

I really wish Bradley Whitford had just been Red John. I think you could've built a whole season around Jane dealing with his primary goal in life being gone. And then another season (at least) of RJ disciples coming after him for revenge.


le nubian - May 20, 2012 4:04:35 am PDT #8933 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree. 100%. This red john mess has gotten WAY old and I don't like what it has done to Jane's character. I can't root for Jane any longer. His behavior isn't cute.

It also is a mystery why law enforcement would be working with Red John. Why? Why would other free thinking adults be working with RJ? I would like to believe that the average adult is not interested in being involved with a serial killer. So what exactly is RJ's draw?

When you know what despicable things he has done?

At the very least, I would be waiting for when I was going to die because his acolytes don't live until their 80s.


Zenkitty - May 20, 2012 11:06:45 am PDT #8934 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I really wish Bradley Whitford had just been Red John.

In my head the show ended there.


Typo Boy - May 20, 2012 8:57:22 pm PDT #8935 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sherlock: Of course plot logic is not the show strong point, but still... Isn't Mycroft as good at deduction as Sherlock (or better)? Isn't he as much a sociopath? (See discussion about "caring" in ep 2.1 ?) So can Sherlock really break Moriarity where Mycroft couldn't? I guess we could argue, especially given the "bless you" that Moriarity was looking for an excuse to suicide, out of desperate boredom.

Also I'll be curious to see if explanation of how Sherlock survived the fall manages to avoid having gaping holes you could drive a whole fleet of London taxis through.


Typo Boy - May 20, 2012 9:02:31 pm PDT #8936 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also, if Moriarity and Sherlock really share the view that people are ants or lapdogs or whatever, Moriarity made a stupid life choice. Even from the point of few of interest in life: it is really easy to smash an ant farm and crush the ants, or murder a lapdog if you are sufficiently heartless. Keeping an ant farm thriving, or a lapdog alive and well and happy is much more of a challenge. If Moriarity really wanted to avoid that terrible boredom, he should have been on the "side of the angels".

[edit] Not that Sherlock actually has that view. At this point, as M took advantage of, he has three friends he cares enough about to die for. And I don't think it is just the affection one has for a pet (though that can be damn strong). Sherlock is not neurotypical, but I doubt the "sociopath" classification applies any more, if it ever did.