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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Feb 08, 2012 5:00:55 pm PST #8676 of 11831
brillig

calzone

I like the way NCIS remembers its own history. So many shows reinvent themselves and pretend the early years don't matter.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2012 5:07:27 pm PST #8677 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just because it's a fanfic scenario doesn't make it uninteresting.

You did catch the "easy" part, right?

I'm not down on it because someone else did it already. I'm down on it because it feels like what *everyone* did already--like "this is the thing the fans like" as opposed to "this is the thing which does the best for the characters".

And then weren't interesting with it to boot. Easy option, flat execution.

As *I* took it.


sj - Feb 09, 2012 5:34:55 am PST #8678 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I like the way NCIS remembers its own history. So many shows reinvent themselves and pretend the early years don't matter.

I agree with this, except for the retcon wrt Tony's mother.

Also, do we know the whole story of Gibb's mother? Did she commit suicide? I can't remember.

I wish Jenny had been given a bigger role in the episode. In fact, I think it probably should have been a two parter because they barely skimmed the surface of the different scenarios. I want to know how Kate not dying got Abby and McGee together. Also, I want Abby and McGee back together, now please.


Connie Neil - Feb 09, 2012 5:47:24 am PST #8679 of 11831
brillig

Also, do we know the whole story of Gibb's mother? Did she commit suicide? I can't remember.

I think she just left. I know she and his father divorced, I don't remember anything about her dying, though she probably has.

And yes, I was seriously expecting a two-parter. There was a lot they could have played with. But they seem to go out of their way to avoid continuing stories except for season enders.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2012 6:06:26 am PST #8680 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Continuing stories? They've been playing out Gibb's revenge (and Abby knowing) for ages, and they've done a lot of longer arc stories. It's something I've come to see as an NCIS characteristic, unlike many other procedurals (including their brother show).


le nubian - Feb 14, 2012 9:35:22 am PST #8681 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jonny Lee Miller is set to play Sherlock Holmes in a new pilot on CBS "Elementary."

Why do they keep trying to make JLM happen? He isn't that good.


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 9:41:21 am PST #8682 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love him! I've liked him quite a lot in all the appearances I've seen him in in the past five or so years. He's definitely better than a number of people with regular gigs.

However--the idea that they can carve out a good Sherlock niche with the English version and the movie franchise still extant...sometimes it's not riding the wave, but diving in where there's the most competition.


le nubian - Feb 14, 2012 9:47:28 am PST #8683 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

oh ita.

you love him?

(disappointed)


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 9:57:05 am PST #8684 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think he's a cutie pie, and I liked his turn in the Emma miniseries, plus what I saw of him on Dexter (didn't watch regularly). I thought he was the best thing about Hackers, and I thought he was pretty damned good against some stiff competition in Endgame.

Where does he fail you?


sj - Feb 14, 2012 10:05:39 am PST #8685 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I like him too. I really liked Eli Stone. I wish it had stayed on the air.