This must be what going mad feels like.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Cass - Dec 14, 2011 6:28:38 pm PST #8509 of 11831
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

What appeals to you about West Coast NCIS versus East Coast NCIS?

Sam and Callen. They are sort of Danny and Rusty married and I like them together. Banter and extreme competence.

I feel like the NCIS characters (or show writers, if I go meta) have been doing this for so long that there's no where to go.

No way can I believe that both Ziva and Scary Dude were both so bad at trying to shoot each other that they emptied all of their clips and had to go hand-to-hand. Just so we could have that long gunfire exchange and music while the miracle baby is born during the holiday ep. Because, well, Ziva is kinda competent. It's the thing she is more than anything.

Clearly the show has just lost magic for me.


Kathy A - Dec 15, 2011 5:12:43 am PST #8510 of 11831
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I feel like the NCIS characters (or show writers, if I go meta) have been doing this for so long that there's no where to go.

I'm with you there. I've got the last two eps on my dvr, and no real desire to watch them.

I'm starting to feel the same way about Criminal Minds, unfortunately. Although last night's ep was a big improvement on most of this season so far, it was still nowhere near as good as even the most middling of the eps from seasons 3 and 4, the series' highlight IMO. The best part of last night's ep was the team stuff, especially relating to Hotch finally flirting (as much as he can) with a woman. I just wish he had admitted to Rossi that the only girl he had ever dated was Haley, because I'm convinced that's the truth.

The CM writers are still having a hard time getting their grove back from losing AJ and Paget last season, I think.


le nubian - Dec 15, 2011 5:20:00 am PST #8511 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

When you contrast that with CSI - I mean CSI is firing on all cylinders this season. It is kind of amazing to watch.


Kathy A - Dec 15, 2011 5:25:00 am PST #8512 of 11831
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

When you contrast that with CSI - I mean CSI is firing on all cylinders this season. It is kind of amazing to watch.

I know! That's a show that really managed to regain its grove bigtime. I think bringing in Ted Danson revitalized the writers' synapses.


le nubian - Dec 15, 2011 5:37:32 am PST #8513 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Truly. And they are actually having scripts where other actors on CSI are getting some quality acting time!


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2011 5:42:53 am PST #8514 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But they're getting rid of Catherine! Which officially means none of the CSIs have cool older women (sorry, I hate Sela Ward's character--I think she's annoying as fuck).


le nubian - Dec 15, 2011 5:49:42 am PST #8515 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

her plastic surgery on her face is awful.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2011 5:54:33 am PST #8516 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sela, or Marg?

I loved the CSI episode where Catherine was all "What is cosmetic surgery? I don't UNDERSTAND."

Ah, honey, yes you do.


JenP - Dec 15, 2011 9:09:08 am PST #8517 of 11831

So agreed about CSI - I kind of love Ted Danson's character a lot. I'm not sure I've ever felt that way about a Ted Danson character before.

Cas[ETA: s]*, I had exactly the same thought last night during the shoot-out -- I think I could have hit that dude with two guns in my hand standing that close. You know, if I weren't cowering in a corner somewhere, but, hell, if he's that crappy a shot, maybe not. But Ziva??? Come on!!

*Though you are absolutely an angel. Just not that angel.


Scrappy - Dec 15, 2011 9:21:11 am PST #8518 of 11831
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, the DH and I are kind of amazed at how much better CSI is this year.