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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Toddson - Nov 30, 2011 6:41:05 am PST #8436 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I watched the first few episodes, mostly because there was nothing else on. Then Bones started and I'm giving it a pass. (However, I still admire Jim Caveziel's cheekbones.)


-t - Nov 30, 2011 6:55:12 am PST #8437 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't recall any innocents getting killed on Person of Interest. At least not by Reese.

Not killed by the heroes, just incidentally dead but not mattering because their social security numbers were not picked by the machine - people in the same situation as the person they were going all out to save.


le nubian - Nov 30, 2011 7:01:50 am PST #8438 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I see POI as "The Equalizer" for the '10s.


brenda m - Nov 30, 2011 7:05:58 am PST #8439 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I was not watching closely, but I just could not get the premise when I saw the pilot. Numbers come up because huh? And you know someone's involved in something bad(as victim or otherwise) because random number generator huh?


Toddson - Nov 30, 2011 7:13:14 am PST #8440 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The premise seems to be that Mr. Finch built a massive surveillance system for the government. The government is only interested in terrorist activities, not in random people being involved - as victim or perpetrator - in day-to-day crimes. So he, as creator of the system with access to the information, has it spit out the SS numbers of those who will be involved.


brenda m - Nov 30, 2011 7:14:55 am PST #8441 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But how does it know from the SS numbers who will be involved in crimes?


Toddson - Nov 30, 2011 7:19:33 am PST #8442 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

It sees all, knows all. Perhaps there's a lot of handwavium involved.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2011 7:23:44 am PST #8443 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Finch wrote a program that predicts crimes. It makes two lists--relevant (big, terrorist) incidents and non-relevant (small, one person harmed) incidents. Finch made the system for his bosses, but he left himself a backdoor to the small incident list, since he knew they wouldn't pay attention to it. But it has to be a small backdoor, so they don't catch him. So all it tells him is the SSN of the person involved, and not whether they're victim or antagonist.


sj - Nov 30, 2011 7:32:41 am PST #8444 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

"My girlfriend died when I was saving lives halfway across the universe so I became a homeless man with the world's worst beard, woe is me, no one understands my pain..."

She died? I must have missed that. I thought she married someone else.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2011 7:34:23 am PST #8445 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was said in some episode that she died. And then in another episode it was said that she didn't wait for him. I have seen three out of order eps, so it's really possible I misread "lost" or something.

eta: Which makes him *way* more of a whiner