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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Amy - Nov 23, 2011 2:47:20 pm PST #8407 of 11831
Because books.

I can't imagine what new evidence they're going to come up with now, though, especially since she drowned, and the only people on the boat have already been interviewed.

The captain kept insisting he wasn't trying to cash in, in the interview I saw, and that he wrote a book about this published four years ago, but I just can't see where they're going to get with this. The fact that no authorities were called until so long after they noticed her missing is damning enough, but they knew that years ago, right?


§ ita § - Nov 24, 2011 6:25:52 pm PST #8408 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, NCIS: LA, WTF?

I don't give this show 100% of my attention, and usually that works out, but I'm confused now. Last week's ep, with the gorgeous African chick...was Sam back in LA at the end? With a wife no one knows about? What? Canon allows for that?

As for this week's ep, ENOUGH with the "Oh, no, I've been fired!" "Uh, sorry I went undercover, but I needed your reactions to be realistic and you're not good enough at your job to be trusted to do it" trope (I typed tripe initially--someone write Freud a cheque). It's predictable, and I think it detracts from the plot.


Vortex - Nov 27, 2011 6:17:15 pm PST #8409 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Grrr. For some reason, cable on TNT went out. Grrr. And I don't have a cable card for the tivo, so I can't record it later. Grr.


§ ita § - Nov 27, 2011 6:22:13 pm PST #8410 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are you in the right thread? I can't think of a procedural on tonight. Did something start as well as Leverage?


Vortex - Nov 27, 2011 7:00:15 pm PST #8411 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I didn't want to go into cable drama to avoid the spoilage, but some where where my pain could be felt


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2011 7:39:35 am PST #8412 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Am I supposed to still be thinking Chief Johnson is a horrible person? Is that the text, or is that me? She's so straight up unpleasant, and in a way that has potentially awful impacts on lives all around her.


brenda m - Nov 29, 2011 8:50:14 am PST #8413 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, I'm kind of losing track of where they're going with this. Her speechifying about having to step outside the lines like the coach was repellent.

(And talk about unfortunately timely plotting.)


Typo Boy - Nov 29, 2011 9:05:17 am PST #8414 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I have a theory. The short version is "yes" you are supposed to hate her.

The long version: up to this last season, behind all the quirky layers, Closer was just a typical cop drama about a hard-ass cop who breaks the rules to get the bad guys. And we were supposed to cheer for her, and mostly did.

And then in planning the closing season the writers looked back over her past, realized that as written she was a monster and a threat. The whole idea of cheering rule-breaking cops is a bad one. So they decided to use the last season to make us see that too. (And kudos to those who noticed it before this season.)


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2011 9:10:42 am PST #8415 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And we were supposed to cheer for her, and mostly did.

Do you mean most of us did, or we did most of the time?

And kudos to those who noticed it before this season.

Seriously, not looking for kudos, I've always disliked her (but love the rest of the ensemble, so I watch for them), but since they seem to be actually working it, she's repulsive. A horrible person who seems intent on dragging people down to the place where her mind lives. And who cares about the collateral (or direct) damage?


Typo Boy - Nov 29, 2011 9:11:48 am PST #8416 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think most of us who watched the show did most of the time.