I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


le nubian - May 24, 2011 12:25:57 pm PDT #7813 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

did no one mention that they seem to have borrowed the Liam wig for this episode

that cracked my shit right up. I don't even watch the show anymore and I'm laffing and laffing.


Vortex - May 24, 2011 6:30:41 pm PDT #7814 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

At least this time, it was supposed to be bad.


Ginger - May 27, 2011 4:00:42 pm PDT #7815 of 11831
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Oh, Flashpoint. I love your Canadianness.


WindSparrow - May 28, 2011 10:32:09 am PDT #7816 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I just found myself saying out loud that I thought Adrian Monk was considerably less fucked up than Patrick Jane. But now I'm wondering if I'm working on incomplete evidence, as I haven't by any means seen all the available eps of either series.


le nubian - May 28, 2011 10:38:42 am PDT #7817 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Based on the evidence (and I think I saw 4 or 5 seasons of Monk), I would agree with you.


§ ita § - May 28, 2011 8:38:48 pm PDT #7818 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Having watched all of both of them, Jane is more fucked up. There's medicine and therapy for what ails Monk. Or even a revelation...an epiphany...moving past the moment of discovering why his wife was killed.

Jane is a psychopath. He's just someone you keep from taking lives. Luckily he's only interested in killing one person.

It occurs to me now the premises of Monk and The Mentalist are more similar than The Mentalist and Psych. Huh.

And! Blam! At least he cried when he did it.

Just watched the finale again.


WindSparrow - May 28, 2011 9:07:17 pm PDT #7819 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Psychopath? Oh, sure, Antisocial Personality Disorder, but as with Cumberbatch's Sherlock, I'd put Jane more at the sociopathic end of the spectrum - though with Sherlock, the personality disorder appears more certainly organic in nature. Unless they get around to showing a heck of lot more of Jane's backstory, so we get a clue as to what he was genuinely like with his wife and child, I doubt there will ever be a way to know for sure - there is a distinct possibility that with Jane, the complex of behaviors that appear Antisocial, may well be as much voluntarily put on armor as those three piece suits he wears. One clue is that he has been shown to have something other than a flat affect when he has no one to impress. Yes, I did spend a couple years with the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Third Ed., Revised as light bed-time reading. Why do you ask? t /psychology nerd

Yeah, right, like that tag ever closes.


beekaytee - May 29, 2011 11:48:27 am PDT #7820 of 11831
Compassionately intolerant

I love you, Andi. And I totally agree.

There was an interesting piece on the 'psycho test' on NPR yesterday, you might want to check it out...as, you know...light entertainment.

Jane would flunk the inventory, but he definitely has sociopathy.

linky for the NPR piece.


sumi - May 29, 2011 11:54:50 am PDT #7821 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

It was on This American Life and was very amusing.


beekaytee - May 29, 2011 12:04:02 pm PDT #7822 of 11831
Compassionately intolerant

sumi, I know, right?

It cracked me up that the TAL staff took the inventory and actually expected to score . Every client I see thinks they are much worse than they really are. (except for one, but we shall not go there) They were kind of cute confessing their 'sins' .

The line is classic, because it is so true. "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Ooops. white fonting for a fun surprise at the end of the TAL piece.