Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Jan 06, 2011 6:58:35 am PST #6770 of 11837
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't it rare that an author who's not doing the screenplay would get that? I ask because I seem to hear about it in a way that implies it's the exception. Unless he's Dan Brown and not Alan Moore.


Connie Neil - Jan 06, 2011 7:01:25 am PST #6771 of 11837
brillig

Isn't this the first movie of one of his books? He may not have enough Hollywood cred to demand input.


Vortex - Jan 06, 2011 7:05:54 am PST #6772 of 11837
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't it rare that an author who's not doing the screenplay would get that? I ask because I seem to hear about it in a way that implies it's the exception.

I got the impression that he was a James Patterson type, so very successful, even before the Nikki Heat books (he had another protagonist, as I recall), successful enough to ask for and get some input. But, what the hell do I know.


Barb - Jan 06, 2011 7:14:36 am PST #6773 of 11837
“Not dead yet!”

Even very successful authors don't always get that sort of input offered contractually. It's one of the things that drives me so very batshit about Stephenie Meyer. Her experiences have been so out of the ordinary that she has no concept what it's like for most other authors. (Things like having input into things like Bella's engagement ring and wedding dress, etc.)

With Castle, I got the impression that yes, he's as successful as a James Patterson and could get input, should he so desire, but that he's just arrogant enough (in that charming Castle way) to not feel as if he needed it because who would change his words?


Vortex - Jan 06, 2011 7:35:44 am PST #6774 of 11837
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He may not have negotiated it, thinking that they would just listen to him. That's a failing of his agent, I would think.


erin_obscure - Jan 06, 2011 8:59:05 am PST #6775 of 11837
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Hollywood has no respect for authors. Seriously. It's not uncommon for multiple screen writers to completely change everything from characterization to outright major plot points and authors have no authority to do anything. Once they sell the rights, it's all about what the producer wants to do. If the producer wanted to change Nikki Heat to an upscale hooker who dabbles as a PI, they could and Castle would have no legal option aside from public indignation.

eta: i suspect Castle would have FANTASTIC public indignation, possibly enough to shame the producer into changing it back...but that's fiction. In actual Hollywood, authors have zero control over any aspect of a movie production unless they specifically get it written into a contract.


Connie Neil - Jan 06, 2011 9:02:58 am PST #6776 of 11837
brillig

i suspect Castle would have FANTASTIC public indignation

Didn't he say he has half a million followers on Twitter?


aurelia - Jan 06, 2011 11:46:33 am PST #6777 of 11837
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Didn't he say he has half a million followers on Twitter?

That part might not be fiction. [link]
Okay, so they're stretching the number a bit.


Toddson - Jan 06, 2011 12:39:12 pm PST #6778 of 11837
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

In re Castle: I remember once hearing an author (Stephen King perhaps) in an interview say that the best thing to happen was have a studio pay for an option on a book, renew it over and over, but never make the movie.


brenda m - Jan 06, 2011 12:47:48 pm PST #6779 of 11837
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh hah, I got one of the Castle books for Christmas but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Maybe this weekend.

(No surprise this is the show to namecheck meta.)