Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Barb - Jan 05, 2011 10:38:33 am PST #6766 of 11837
“Not dead yet!”

I'm with ita and Connie. I bet that Beckett would be good with kids and would be completely exasperated with the guys in that "What? Just because I'm a cop you think I can't handle babies?" And it could lead to a lovely scene where she's being affectionate with a baby and the guys totally eavesdropping. I could just see the range of expressions on their faces from awe to bemusement to knowing to adoration. (Y'all can figure out which expression would belong to which player.)

And I'm totally laughing at all of us, giving Ryan a baby before he's even gotten married.


erin_obscure - Jan 05, 2011 12:41:03 pm PST #6767 of 11837
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

I thought Ryan was already married! I guess i missed the "not married" aspect to the whole honey-milk thing.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 05, 2011 10:37:34 pm PST #6768 of 11837
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I loved Castle's indignation at what was being done to his character and script.


Vortex - Jan 06, 2011 6:47:45 am PST #6769 of 11837
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was kind of surprised that an author as successful as he is wasn't given/didn't demand some sort of creative control.


§ ita § - Jan 06, 2011 6:58:35 am PST #6770 of 11837
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't it rare that an author who's not doing the screenplay would get that? I ask because I seem to hear about it in a way that implies it's the exception. Unless he's Dan Brown and not Alan Moore.


Connie Neil - Jan 06, 2011 7:01:25 am PST #6771 of 11837
brillig

Isn't this the first movie of one of his books? He may not have enough Hollywood cred to demand input.


Vortex - Jan 06, 2011 7:05:54 am PST #6772 of 11837
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't it rare that an author who's not doing the screenplay would get that? I ask because I seem to hear about it in a way that implies it's the exception.

I got the impression that he was a James Patterson type, so very successful, even before the Nikki Heat books (he had another protagonist, as I recall), successful enough to ask for and get some input. But, what the hell do I know.


Barb - Jan 06, 2011 7:14:36 am PST #6773 of 11837
“Not dead yet!”

Even very successful authors don't always get that sort of input offered contractually. It's one of the things that drives me so very batshit about Stephenie Meyer. Her experiences have been so out of the ordinary that she has no concept what it's like for most other authors. (Things like having input into things like Bella's engagement ring and wedding dress, etc.)

With Castle, I got the impression that yes, he's as successful as a James Patterson and could get input, should he so desire, but that he's just arrogant enough (in that charming Castle way) to not feel as if he needed it because who would change his words?


Vortex - Jan 06, 2011 7:35:44 am PST #6774 of 11837
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He may not have negotiated it, thinking that they would just listen to him. That's a failing of his agent, I would think.


erin_obscure - Jan 06, 2011 8:59:05 am PST #6775 of 11837
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Hollywood has no respect for authors. Seriously. It's not uncommon for multiple screen writers to completely change everything from characterization to outright major plot points and authors have no authority to do anything. Once they sell the rights, it's all about what the producer wants to do. If the producer wanted to change Nikki Heat to an upscale hooker who dabbles as a PI, they could and Castle would have no legal option aside from public indignation.

eta: i suspect Castle would have FANTASTIC public indignation, possibly enough to shame the producer into changing it back...but that's fiction. In actual Hollywood, authors have zero control over any aspect of a movie production unless they specifically get it written into a contract.