I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Java cat - Dec 05, 2007 4:43:30 pm PST #660 of 11831
Not javachik

Medium has the best married relationship on TV, period (maybe ever?), and it is so good, it makes me love the show even more.* Alison is a terrific character. It's going to be interesting to see how she deals with being outed. I'm a little sorry they did that; I liked the set-up, but it makes sense.

  • and the one time they intimated that they
might break up the relationship, I was ready to throw tomatoes at the network and writers. Thank DOG they didn't. Alison and Joe are just... wonderful.


Java cat - Dec 05, 2007 4:46:34 pm PST #661 of 11831
Not javachik

[link] Here's an interesting article about how Nielson tracks the live-plus-seven [timeshifting] numbers of viewers.

Although live-plus-seven provides a more accurate assessment of how many people are actually watching a given series, data is not available until 15 days after the broadcast week. Advertisers won't pay for any viewing that takes place more than three days after an episode's original airing. Known as C3, this measures how many viewers are watching advertisements both live and up to three days after the commercials originally air.

Live-plus-seven "will not save a marginal show," Manze adds, "but it is a factor we would consider if it were a marginal show and (the lift) were significant."

He went on to add, "The old-fashioned rating, the one that's on your desk the next afternoon, is still very much the one that decides your fate."

Hmm. Nielson households, take note.

sorry about the flurry. I read, I post, I go away.


Dana - Dec 05, 2007 5:05:02 pm PST #662 of 11831
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It's a bit of a stretch to compare it to Homicide, but I think if it had some room to grow and for them to figure out exactly what works, it could be a consistently excellent show.

They're right about the music, though, which is unbelievably good. And the cinematography.


Tom Scola - Dec 05, 2007 5:52:30 pm PST #663 of 11831
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Life is fucking intense.


Vonnie K - Dec 05, 2007 6:02:11 pm PST #664 of 11831
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Holy mother of fuck, that episode of Life almost killed me. I'm a wreck.

No new episode until God knows when! I'm gonna CRY.


DXMachina - Dec 05, 2007 6:04:43 pm PST #665 of 11831
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Nice bit of HSQ there at the end about the daughter. Didn't see that coming at all.


Juliebird - Dec 05, 2007 6:05:21 pm PST #666 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Now THAT's good TV!

Hot damn! I flove this show!!11! Intense, what will Charlie do next?

And I *knew* that girl was Rachel!

Best music cue ever? "Did you fall?" (this show sure does love it some The Frames)


Dana - Dec 05, 2007 6:12:47 pm PST #667 of 11831
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

God, that was a good episode.


Vonnie K - Dec 05, 2007 6:13:50 pm PST #668 of 11831
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Soon as I saw that girl, I yelled "that's Rachel!" Then I remembered she knew Hollis' face, and dismissed the notion. Huh. That's really messed up, taking in the surviving daughter of the family he killed, and having her love you like a real father. It's like its own mini-movie there on its own.

The only thing I missed about the episode was the lack of Charlie/Reese interactions, but I get why she had to be out of the action for most of the ep. Love that both Dani and Starks stepped up to the plate 'soon as Charlie asked, no questions asked.

I was real worried that Jack Reese would jump off the roof, but no. He's too evil a motherfucker for something like that. But I don't quite understand why Jack having Rachel's so important to Charlie. He's already got Hollis. Unless Charlie's worried that Jack would harm her if he went after Jack.


Juliebird - Dec 05, 2007 6:25:26 pm PST #669 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Unless Charlie's worried that Jack would harm her if he went after Jack.

I think that was Jack's implied threat.

Which, motherf***er! I want another ep RIGHT NOW cuz I want to see more Dani/Charlie and how their relationship will be influenced by how f***ing evil her dad is.