Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Oct 25, 2010 12:24:10 pm PDT #6409 of 11838
brillig

I loved Sherlock running down the characteristics of the person who took the shot, glancing over and seeing Watson, and stumbling over his words. The kind of thing ficcers yearn for.

Lestrade is an interesting character. Scotland Yard doesn't hire idiots, only idiots-as-compared-to-Holmes. So Lestrade has got some chops when it comes to the job. It's easy, though, to portray him as an adversarial chump because then Holmes can be portrayed as just smarter than usual, rather than as a superlative genius. When I first saw the movie, I sadly bought Lestrade as a member of that cabal, because he is an organization man and might be persuaded that it was the best way to protect the empire. Which made the turnaround all the sweeter.

Lestrade does go to Holmes for help, though, so there is respect.

It's going to be interesting to see how Watson fits into the crime scenes in this age of CSI and specialized forensics. In the Victorian age, a trained medical opinion wasn't quite so readily to hand, so Watson had a practical purpose other than "Sherlock Holmes trusts me at his back." Which is definitely nothing to sneer at in its own right.


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2010 12:29:09 pm PDT #6410 of 11838
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A tale of two Watsons.


Kathy A - Oct 25, 2010 12:29:11 pm PDT #6411 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think this Watson will be the one who humanizes Holmes. He's the only one to draw out Sherlock's sense of humor (loved both of the laughing scenes at the end of the cab chase and the end of the show), and the way that BC plays Holmes, you can see that he needs a friend, not just a skull to bounce ideas off of.


Connie Neil - Oct 25, 2010 12:37:56 pm PDT #6412 of 11838
brillig

The guy who introduces Holmes and Watson should get fleshed out. He's such a throwaway character, and he seems highly intrigued/amused by watching the two of them.


Ginger - Oct 25, 2010 1:01:08 pm PDT #6413 of 11838
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I despise the Basil Rathbone Holmes' movies because they portray Watson (and Lestrade) as bumbling idiots. Watson is the viewpoint character, our entry into Holmes' world. He represents the intelligent reader. Holmes' brilliance only sparkles in its contrast to an intelligent, capable foil. There's nothing great about being smarter than an idiot.


Connie Neil - Oct 25, 2010 1:03:37 pm PDT #6414 of 11838
brillig

"The Three Garridebs" is a pretty meh story, but it does have Holmes going a bit psycho after a bad guy shoots Watson. And I can't remember if it's in canon or the apocrypha that we have the line "Never let them say you were merely my Boswell." (The canon and the--well, there's not better word for it--fanfic starts to run together. I wonder how big your name has to be for it to become pastiche instead of fanfic. Or if it's the size of the penis.)


Kathy A - Oct 25, 2010 1:08:35 pm PDT #6415 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

(The canon and the--well, there's not better word for it--fanfic starts to run together. I wonder how big your name has to be for it to become pastiche instead of fanfic. Or if it's the size of the penis.)

Heh. I do love The Seven Percent Solution, which is just fanfic written by a professional author and adapted for the big screen.

Speaking of Doyle short stories, someone over at TWOP mentioned that the kid in last night's ep who goes back to his flat for his umbrella is James someone, which is a character in another SH short story who is mentioned in passing as being the victim in an unsolved case who vanished after going back to his place for his umbrella. Nice shout-out for the book fans!!


dcp - Oct 25, 2010 1:09:07 pm PDT #6416 of 11838
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

That line is from The Seven-Per-Cent Solution.


Ginger - Oct 25, 2010 1:12:17 pm PDT #6417 of 11838
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I am an Arthur Conan Doyle purist. As far as I'm concerned, everything else is fanfic and not canon.


Connie Neil - Oct 25, 2010 1:25:59 pm PDT #6418 of 11838
brillig

everything else is fanfic and not canon.

Oh, true, and I've used the extra stories as an argument for the legitimacy of fanfic. There have been "undiscovered stories" for decades, and the whole phenomenon of The Baker Street Irregulars is just fanfic dressed up for scholarly gentlemen geeks who otherwise would never do "that sort of thing."

This is where I hate that my books are scattered between house and storage shed, I used to have all my Holmes materials on two nicely organized bookshelves near my home computer. I'm not even sure where my Annotated Sherlock Holmes two-set has gotten to.