You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


sj - May 20, 2010 4:43:22 am PDT #5523 of 11837
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I was watching The Good Guys and I just decided that the battle of Stalingrad would be less painful to watch.

I thought it was kind of cheestastic. I'll probably watch the next episode.


sumi - May 20, 2010 7:02:45 am PDT #5524 of 11837
Art Crawl!!!

Yes - purposefully cheesy. Mindless fun.


EpicTangent - May 20, 2010 7:28:07 am PDT #5525 of 11837
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Was I the only one irritated by the unacknowledged Rear Window homage/ripoff on CSI:NY? I kept waiting for someone to say something about it on the show, and the fact they didn't just kept bugging. Am I mental? Did other people get a kick out of it? I dunno, just something about the way they handled it rankled me a bit. Or perhaps I'm mental?


sumi - May 20, 2010 7:32:08 am PDT #5526 of 11837
Art Crawl!!!

I didn't watch it but I saw promos and it was mentioned in the promos.


Kathy A - May 20, 2010 7:45:17 am PDT #5527 of 11837
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Someone (either here or at TWOP) said the same thing about the NCIS ep from a few weeks ago that was a homage to Laura--if they fail to mention the film being aped in the script, then it's a ripoff; if they do, then it's an homage.


§ ita § - May 20, 2010 8:50:02 am PDT #5528 of 11837
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What about when they mention it in the promos?


Zenkitty - May 20, 2010 8:52:13 am PDT #5529 of 11837
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Then it's a cop-out.


erikaj - May 20, 2010 8:55:23 am PDT #5530 of 11837
Always Anti-fascist!

It REALLY pissed me off when the Unusuals did that Homicide photocopier thing. I mean, without saying that they got it elsewhere. Even though that show stole from The Job, and Barney Miller, and Hill Street, and basically never had an original thought in its head. Perhaps I need to get out more.


§ ita § - May 20, 2010 9:00:22 am PDT #5531 of 11837
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then it's a cop-out.

I disagree. Mentioning it in the script works for some shows, like Supernatural or NCIS which have an in-show pop culture awareness, but CSI: NY is patently not that show (unless you want the AJ Buckley character to say something, but he's such a doof these days).

The writers are willing to admit it to audiences probably bigger than will actually tune into their show. That's enough for me.


Vonnie K - May 20, 2010 9:18:48 am PDT #5532 of 11837
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

if they fail to mention the film being aped in the script, then it's a ripoff; if they do, then it's an homage.

Not necessarily. When Pushing Daisies did that scene that was identical to the dream sequence in Vertigo, that was clearly an homage, not a ripoff, even though they did not refer to the film at all. Sometimes the intention of the writer/director is transparent. Sometimes, not so much.