Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness. Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.

'Never Leave Me'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


erikaj - May 20, 2010 8:55:23 am PDT #5530 of 11839
Always Anti-fascist!

It REALLY pissed me off when the Unusuals did that Homicide photocopier thing. I mean, without saying that they got it elsewhere. Even though that show stole from The Job, and Barney Miller, and Hill Street, and basically never had an original thought in its head. Perhaps I need to get out more.


§ ita § - May 20, 2010 9:00:22 am PDT #5531 of 11839
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then it's a cop-out.

I disagree. Mentioning it in the script works for some shows, like Supernatural or NCIS which have an in-show pop culture awareness, but CSI: NY is patently not that show (unless you want the AJ Buckley character to say something, but he's such a doof these days).

The writers are willing to admit it to audiences probably bigger than will actually tune into their show. That's enough for me.


Vonnie K - May 20, 2010 9:18:48 am PDT #5532 of 11839
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

if they fail to mention the film being aped in the script, then it's a ripoff; if they do, then it's an homage.

Not necessarily. When Pushing Daisies did that scene that was identical to the dream sequence in Vertigo, that was clearly an homage, not a ripoff, even though they did not refer to the film at all. Sometimes the intention of the writer/director is transparent. Sometimes, not so much.


EpicTangent - May 20, 2010 2:11:31 pm PDT #5533 of 11839
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Maybe if I had seem the promos it would have bugged less, but as it was it felt like the purple elephant in the corner that no one was talking about.

When Pushing Daisies did that scene that was identical to the dream sequence in Vertigo, that was clearly an homage, not a ripoff, even though they did not refer to the film at all. Sometimes the intention of the writer/director is transparent. Sometimes, not so much.

And, I should think, a matter of the overall tone of the show. The tone of CSI:Blue being Very Different from Pushing Daisies. t /ObviousGal

Anyway, thanks for the info on the promos. At least it was acknowledged somewhere. I was just getting frustrated feeling like, "Why aren't they mentioning it? They can't think we don't recognize it! Or was this written by someone young enough not to know it's been done? But no, that can't be it - even if they hadn't seen Rear Window, Disturbia was just a few years ago..." &etc.

So I'm not crazy. This time.


Trudy Booth - May 20, 2010 3:35:45 pm PDT #5534 of 11839
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

OK, does Bones take requests? Can someone murder Daisy? Horribly?


Morgana - May 20, 2010 5:38:04 pm PDT #5535 of 11839
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Re: Bones - Does anyone know why they're jumping things ahead a year?


§ ita § - May 21, 2010 3:12:38 am PDT #5536 of 11839
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hawaii 5 0 preview. I had thought Grace Park was playing DDK's character's wife. Guess not. And guess she gets to be fun.

I'll check it out.


Barb - May 21, 2010 5:10:35 am PDT #5537 of 11839
“Not dead yet!”

I'll take one Alex O'Loughlin wrapped in a bow, plz.

And oh my stars and garters, it's gonna be fun to see DDK being a cop.


sumi - May 21, 2010 5:25:50 am PDT #5538 of 11839
Art Crawl!!!

I couldn't watch that preview. . hmmm, maybe I'll see if I can catch it on youtube or futoncritic.


sumi - May 21, 2010 6:09:30 am PDT #5539 of 11839
Art Crawl!!!

I did find it on youtube: like!

Up against Castle though.

Darn it.