But just to get it straight, the murder weapon is different? If you have a gun or knife with which a client killed the victim, confidentiality does apply, and the defense attorney is NOT required to turn it into the prosecutor?

Oh no, I think you have to turn in the murder weapon. Or at least I know you can't hold it in your safe and claim ACP protects you from turning it over.

song playing over the end of Castle? anyone?

Oh no, I think you have to turn in the murder weapon. Or at least I know you can't hold it in your safe and claim ACP protects you from turning it over.

So if the client is stupid enough to videotape himself committing a crime and then gives the videotapes along with a bunch of other stuff for the purpose of your avoiding being surprised by the prosecution having evidence you did not know exists, there is no ACP? And you do have to turn it over? Show got the obligation to conceal its existence wrong?

So if the client is stupid enough to videotape himself committing a crime and then gives the videotapes along with a bunch of other stuff for the purpose of your avoiding being surprised by the prosecution having evidence you did not know exists, there is no ACP?

I think a client that stupid needs to be in protective custody to save him from impaling himself on his own butter knives.

I remember a case from law school ethics class that may have something to do with TB's question.

Suspect told his lawyers where two bodies could be found. Lawyers went out, looked at and photographed the bodies, didn't inform the prosecutors.

The end result was, the court found that the lawyers acted ethically (though at least one was found guilty of something -- possibly desecrating a corpse -- because he'd moved one of the bodies). However, lawyers' careers were pretty much destroyed due to public outcry.

Here's an article about the case.

Canadians may remember - didn't they find some of Bernardo and Holmolka's tapes hidden in the ceiling panels of their lawyer's office?

L&O (I think) had a case where the lawyer had possession of the murder weapon, but he sealed it and had it locked in some room in the courthouse so he could claim he wasn't in possession of the weapon but could relinquish it if asked.

Typo Boy, I know the show you are talking about. I thought the whole storyline was fucking ridiculous. I was gripped by the plot, but man they stretched credulity into silly putty.

That Frank Armani story is incredibly difficult, and one of the many reasons I couldn't imagine being in criminal law.

L&O did an episode where the killer told his lawyer where all the bodies were, and the prosecution knew the lawyer knew and tried to indict him too as a conspirator or somesuch. They failed to pierce privilege.

song playing over the end of Castle? anyone?

Pearl Jam, The End.