But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Vortex - Dec 09, 2009 6:12:30 pm PST #4421 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, I really didn't like her this episode. Are they trying to tell us that she's starting to lose it? Or maybe she was sensitive because she resembled the victims?


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2009 8:01:17 pm PST #4422 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I dislike rape threats to prisoners. But I thought the show was indicating, at least in the moment, that she was crossing a line. But the very next scene was so different in tone.

It's possible she's been unsettled from Unfoxed, and her looking like this week's victims didn't help. She was all over the preview for next week, so this might be a thing.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2009 9:18:54 pm PST #4423 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Aieee. Why did I ever like Adam? Because they're sure writing him like a buffoon now. Has a crush on a character we've seen for five minutes? Really? Can they not afford to get her back so they're sending her offscreen to the FBI? I don't get it. I want them to write him goofy and funny again, but with a spine. The sort of guy Stella might sleep with, except not homicidal.


sumi - Dec 10, 2009 5:35:35 am PST #4424 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

ita - I also disliked that scene and the way everything seemed perfectly normal in the next scene, as if she ALWAYS threatens prisoners like that. Plus, despite the victimology they never suggested that she was feeling particularly threatened because she fit the type until that scene.


Vortex - Dec 10, 2009 5:36:34 am PST #4425 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

ita - I also disliked that scene and the way everything seemed perfectly normal in the next scene, as if she ALWAYS threatens prisoners like that. Plus, despite the victimology they never suggested that she was feeling particularly threatened because she fit the type until that scene.

it was clear throughout the episode that she had issues, but they came out of nowhere.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2009 6:05:29 am PST #4426 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, she seemed especially unsettled throughout, but they never explicitly tied it to anything. I assumed that her looking so like the victims was a likely reason, but I can't tie a reaction shot to that revelation. Also, if they said she's been off her game since she got rocked in Outfoxed, I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think they've done a great job with it.

It's never clear what they're going to take home with them and what they shrug off.

I would have been a lot happier if they'd shown her either still on edge in the next scene or making a visible effort to switch gears.


le nubian - Dec 10, 2009 7:12:36 am PST #4427 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

did anyone watch CSI:NY last night? I thought it was one of the more interesting ones in awhile, but I wish it were a two-parter. That apartment was a trip and I would have liked to find out the method to the madness of how it was organized.


sumi - Dec 10, 2009 7:18:51 am PST #4428 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

Yes - if only they'd gone into how or why all those traps were built into it.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2009 7:25:53 am PST #4429 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I needed to see more about how the triggers connected to the traps opening and closing, and especially how the woman got trapped in that tank.

The why of the traps was to kill the guy that got stabbed by the angel blades, but it looked like you had to go to a fair amount of trouble to get yourself killed, so I don't see the logic. Angel's curse makes more sense than that.

Of course, I must have missed the bit where they explained why you couldn't break down the door or window and get out--was the initial dead guy trapped in that room and he thought he was getting out by reshuffling the floor tiles? Then the stabbing was a mercy, better than starving slowly to death or dying of thirst, lying in his own waste.


le nubian - Dec 10, 2009 7:47:26 am PST #4430 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, it looks like there were 3 people found in the apartment. The first guy had been there since 1930. He was killed by the angel blades and the owner of the building had likely killed him by accident and realized his good fortune and locked up the apartment with the corpse in it.

The couple got into the apartment some way, and once they found their way in, I guess the guy got into the hot room - perhaps by touching the vase. He used the phone to call out and got fried.

I suspect he was banging on the walls and his girlfriend was trying to find him, realizing the place was booby trapped and got herself caught in one. I still don't understand why she didn't just call the cops - but I guess she didn't have a cell phone on her.