Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2009 11:40:24 am PST #4167 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had to copy over Dana's manpain flowchart link because it mention's G Cullen's ludicrous multiple foster family angst. The math on that totally doesn't even work. I can't believe NCIS:LA gets a shoutout in the same flowchart that Batman does. And I guess Chris does double duty.


Dana - Nov 17, 2009 11:43:11 am PST #4168 of 11831
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The list of people that applies to is kind of scary. Gibbs comes right to mind. Anyone with a dead spouse and/or child. Patrick Jane. Jack O'Neill. Charlie Crews. House. Some of them are more charming than others, or better at masking their pain, but still. Trauma.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2009 11:50:24 am PST #4169 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, you just made me miss Life. Sad now.

Kinda makes you think about what you need to do to seed a procedural. But I like to think that some shows do it better than others. Gibbs is a total cheat, because Mark Harmon didn't even know he had manpain until the second season or so. I guess he thought he was just an ass.

I would kill to see his single solitary man tear, though. I bet he can't do it as prettily as Sam or Dean.

And Cullen is an inverted cheat, because I think they just set up the manpain day 1 and every week they just tell us another reason why. It's such overt fangirl manipulation.

But if he cries in front of LL Cool J, I will forgive them almost anything.

Angel doesn't get his own square, but he does get an explicit mention!


erikaj - Nov 17, 2009 12:02:25 pm PST #4170 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

Tim Bayliss gets like all the above, poor baby.(except foster care) Also, his website got censored. But, you know, that makes me appreciate Secor(and I don't mean porn this time) He did some weird things on that show, and it felt pretty real throughout. Namaste, motherfucker.


sj - Nov 17, 2009 3:30:31 pm PST #4171 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

NCIS: Finally some good Abby scenes this week. And I love how she is still managing to get her work done without electricity when the team is struggling.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2009 5:00:30 pm PST #4172 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a new game. Apparently Emily Procter hates David Caruso so they never have scenes together. Well, rarely. So the game is to spot them. Also to predict when the new black guy will give up and start phoning it in.

I thought it was weird when EP said that Cibrian would provide the show with sex appeal but maybe she was being catty about her current coworkers. Jonathan Togo has gained a lot of weight.


brenda m - Nov 17, 2009 5:10:43 pm PST #4173 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That will make Orange more interesting. Somehow I find myself watching it more than I plan to - I think it's because, new or late night reruns, it always finds a hole where there are no other options. Maybe it's actually creating some sort of creative vortex that sucks all decent programming off the air.

Cibrian kept me watching Third Watch for a while - he does bring the pretty.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2009 7:42:14 pm PST #4174 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

CSI:Orange is everywhere these days. You get to see Alana De La Garza as the passive love object of HoCaine, instead of the bright beautiful principled lawyer apple of Cutter's eye.

I admit it. Still watching NCIS:LA. I can't get over the manufactured pain. I need to know how far they go with it. And the bromance.

Still wincing at Kenzie's eye. I know it's just a birthmark--it doesn't hurt. But it makes my eyes water to look at it.


bon bon - Nov 17, 2009 8:41:07 pm PST #4175 of 11831
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I love Alana de la Garza's hair. I bet she straightens it. But the first season she was on was my ideal haircut.

David Milch refused to let on he was having a heart attack while talking to Caruso, he hated him that much. The Procter stuff doesn't surprise.


Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2009 1:39:06 am PST #4176 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

David Milch refused to let on he was having a heart attack while talking to Caruso, he hated him that much.

What?!