Hey, don't worry about it. Nest full of vampires, you come get me, okay. Box full of puppies, that's more of a judgement call.

Jonathan ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Vortex - Nov 06, 2009 6:30:58 am PST #4048 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And sleeping with Wendell was icky, although he is a charmer.

Why do you think that it's icky? He's an adult, and she's not his supervisor. Plus, we don't know that they slept together, Angela's on her celibacy kick. They could have just made out. There's definitely some intimacy there, but it doesn't have to have been between the sheets intimacy. Frankly, I can't see her blowing her celibacy on a fling with Wendell.


Zenkitty - Nov 06, 2009 6:32:47 am PST #4049 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Vortex, yes, on both counts. I also like that Morgan is willing to listen to Hotch's advice, but doesn't automatically do what Hotch thinks he should. And that there was no drama from either of them. The whole team, even Rossi, was kinda walking on eggshells at first, feeling out how this was gonna work.

I like that the show doesn't get bogged down in their personal lives, but I would like some more backstory on Prentiss. She's the only one we really haven't seen anything about; all we know is who her mother is. Is there really nothing else to know about her? J.J. and Hotch once mentioned that none of this has ever bothered her, she's never blinked, and she replied that she compartmentalizes better than most people - there has to be a reason for that.

I'd also like to know Hotch's timeline - he married his high school sweetheart, right? And they're in their late-30s/early 40s now, right? Why did they wait so long to have a baby? Not that there aren't any good reasons for that.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2009 6:40:31 am PST #4050 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there really nothing else to know about her?

We know she had a rebellion against religion in her teen years and an abortion--that's not nothing.

Why do you think that it's icky? He's an adult, and she's not his supervisor.

I just remember her reticence about workplace romance with Hodgins, I guess, and I was still rooting for the two of them. Now they're on the down low--it's more the now of it than the it of it. I jumped to the sleeping together place because of her sensitivity to the idea that Wendell had stepped in for Hodgins. It seemed a bit much for just a makeout session--and the makeout session seemed a bit much for just a $45 donation, no matter how broke a carnivore he is. Sweets was right. She's disproportionately focussed.


Ouise - Nov 06, 2009 6:43:45 am PST #4051 of 11831
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

Criminal Minds - I started watching the episode from a couple weeks ago which started with some guys watching a home movie of them beating people to death.

I stopped watching a few minutes in, because I was finding it too upsetting. Is the whole episode like that, or do I just need to skip the first scene?


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2009 6:46:09 am PST #4052 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The episode as a whole is pretty upsetting Ouise, although it does have character points for Hotch and Morgan. But the crimes continue to be brutal and the criminals especially reprehensible.

It is the episode that has conflict between Hotch and Morgan and starts another arc for Morgan if you want to watch with your eyes half closed and your finger on fast-forward.


Jesse - Nov 06, 2009 7:05:19 am PST #4053 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd also like to know Hotch's timeline - he married his high school sweetheart, right? And they're in their late-30s/early 40s now, right? Why did they wait so long to have a baby? Not that there aren't any good reasons for that.

I'd guess that he kept promising that his work life would settle down later, so he could be more available at home, but it never did (and it never will).


Vortex - Nov 06, 2009 7:07:27 am PST #4054 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I expect that they didn't plan the pregnancy. I see Hotch as a guy who said "when I'm a supervisor, I'll be home more", "when I'm a team lead, I'll be home more", but then got a job where he was never home anyway. He was a prosecutor before that, a desk job, but he was probably still always at the office.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2009 7:16:27 am PST #4055 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Apparently the writers had a timeline in mind for Hotch and then they cast the older Thomas Gibson and they never really ironed out the scripts. So the numbers don't add up right.


Zenkitty - Nov 06, 2009 7:23:49 am PST #4056 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

We know she had a rebellion against religion in her teen years and an abortion--that's not nothing.

I didn't know that. I think there's still a season I haven't seen much of. Goody.

Yeah, I can see Hotch as a guy who kept promising things that didn't happen, and feeling guilty about it, and making more promises because he wanted it to be true, and then when they had the baby and he still wasn't home much, Haley had enough.

Being a woman who focuses too much time on work and has no intention of having a child, I need to find me a guy like Hotch.


Vortex - Nov 06, 2009 7:26:56 am PST #4057 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Being a woman who focuses too much time on work and has no intention of having a child, I need to find me a guy like Hotch.

yes. A guy like Hotch would be good for me. But I want a Morgan. Mmmmm, smoking hot, carries a gun, and emotionally unavailable. Yeah, that's my guy.