Being a woman who focuses too much time on work and has no intention of having a child, I need to find me a guy like Hotch.

yes. A guy like Hotch would be good for me. But I want a Morgan. Mmmmm, smoking hot, carries a gun, and emotionally unavailable. Yeah, that's my guy.

I think there's still a season I haven't seen much of. Goody.

Demonology, from last season, I think. Kinda confusing ending.

I don't have much sympathy for Haley. Part of it's not her fault--we see so many wives of law enforcement officers who can't handle that their husbands are LEOs and leave because of it. Nice to see on White Collar a wife who looks like she's in it for the long haul, but then again, it seems contingent on it being low-danger. I know it can't be easy, but for at least some of them a high-stressed husband was part of the deal.

Haley fell in love with Aaron in high school, so that doesn't apply, but he had a high-stress high-demand job from a long time ago. Leaving him while he was off on a gig was just cold, and I think it was no way to handle that. Asking someone to choose between saving the innocent and being home more for his family should be a hard choice. But they too often make the wives shrewish about it, and I don't like it.

It is the episode that has conflict between Hotch and Morgan and starts another arc for Morgan if you want to watch with your eyes half closed and your finger on fast-forward.

Thanks, ita. I may try this.

Part of it's not her fault--we see so many wives of law enforcement officers who can't handle that their husbands are LEOs and leave because of it.

I think that it's not that they can't handle that their husbands are LEOs, but that the job takes priority over them. I think that it would be just as much of an issue if their husbands were high powered finance guys or lawyers that were never home, always on the road closing deals or trying cases or whatever.

I think that it would be just as much of an issue if their husbands were high powered finance guys or lawyers that were never home, always on the road closing deals or trying cases or whatever.

To me the idea that my husband is saving children from fires or capturing murderers or transplanting hearts when he's not around me is very different from the idea that he's closing deals. I'd like to think I'd react differently. And I'd like to think I wouldn't walk out on him while he wasn't there.

I'd just like to see more women who like it, or who know it's rough, but that it's one of the things they love about their husband, not that it's one of the things they have to get over--we never see Haley react positively to all the good that Hotch does, ever. The man's a hero! There should at least have been some conflict from her there, not just defeat and resignation when he walks out the door.

I get very tired of the trope of "But what about me!" whined by some women in a show whose apparent only purpose is to either have a woman in the show at all or to provide "drama". It seems to tie in with "Only my brothers in arms understand me." There's got to be cop wives out there who knew what they were getting into.

And that reminds me of some of the ick about Tamara. When Morgan tells her that she's helped him reconnect with his job, what the hell was he talking about? Could you have shown this less? I'm not sure if the leap to her giving him her dead brother's religious jewelry is supposed to be a flashing red neon sign of too much way too soon, or just an indication of how close they've been getting offscreen.

Either way, Garcia's right and it's totally inappropriate. I hope it doesn't mess up that case or his team leadership.

I don't have much sympathy for Haley.

Yep, to all of that. It was the sneaking out while he was away saving people that really did it; I could never like her after that. And every time he wants to see his kid, he has to practically beg her to get out of the way.

Apparently the writers had a timeline in mind for Hotch and then they cast the older Thomas Gibson and they never really ironed out the scripts. So the numbers don't add up right.

That makes sense, but it would be hard, at this point in the series, to believe a younger man playing Hotch. Gibson's about my age, and Hotch could easily be early 40's, so that's about right for his position and his experience.

we never see Haley react positively to all the good that Hotch does, ever. The man's a hero!

Exactly. In one episode he even said something like that, I'm a hero, but when I go home, I'm just a guy who's failing at being a husband and father.

I'm not sure if the leap to her giving him her dead brother's religious jewelry is supposed to be a flashing red neon sign of too much way too soon, or just an indication of how close they've been getting offscreen.

Both, maybe? The whole Tamara thing is confusing. It's happening too fast, it shouldn't be happening at all, and WTF? "Reconnect to his job"? Where did this even come from? I hope this gets explained, and done away with, pretty quickly. Rossi mentioned to Hotch that Morgan might not be so cheery about stepping down again, and I'm afraid the writers are setting up Tamara to mess up Morgan so he'll have to step down. This is exactly the sort of personal-life drama/screw-up that I hate, especially in my crime shows. The way they handled J.J./Louisiana-Lawman was perfect - it made sense, it had consequences (good ones, for a change), and it was mostly offscreen. That's how I like it. Get your romance out of my crime.

"Reconnect to his job"? Where did this even come from?

I was thinking that it was in the sense that he was seeing the victims as people, not just cases.

I think that it's interesting that they showed him going to the sister's house to tell her that they had found the eyes. He could have made a phone call and the plane could have left in the allotted hour, but he took the time to drive out there for 2 minutes of conversation. I wonder if this was supposed to make us feel better about him going to talk to Tamara previously, show that it was just how he rolled, not because she was special.

I was thinking that it was in the sense that he was seeing the victims as people

But wasn't that his problem? He got all distressed in the pig farm episode because he was too close to everything. I didn't see him pull back and objectify the cases after that.

I wonder if this was supposed to make us feel better about him going to talk to Tamara previously, show that it was just how he rolled, not because she was special.

But then he called Tamara for drinks, so he's still singling her out.

I wondered for a second if it was to show us a difference between his style and Hotch's, since he seemed to connect more with the sister than Hotch would have, but Hotch did go to a victim's family's house at the end of Ashes and Dust, and he gave that son his card, so it's not out of character for him.