Which reminds me of a gripe from K-ville and Cobb's flashbacks when he is supposedly being dragged down by his buddy. Because what I actually saw was Cobb holding his friend down under water, not the panicked-grip of a guy trying to keeping from drowning and drowning his would-be rescuer (Cobb) in the process. The friend wasn't even touching Cobb from what I could see. So either that's a big goof, or Cobb is lying and killed his cellmate deliberate-like, and not out of self-preservation

I think it's pretty clear that Cobb did kill his cellmate, but I read it that it was the only way Cobb thought he could stop the cellmate from dragging Cobb down with him.

I think it's pretty clear that Cobb did kill his cellmate, but I read it that it was the only way Cobb could stop the cellmate from dragging Cobb down with him.

I don't disagree one jot.

But the distinction I was trying to make between this and what I saw in one of the flashbacks is that, like when my dog is panicking in the water and trying to climb on top of me for safety and thereby forcing me under and threatening my own safety (which has happened), what one of the flashbacks showed was that the cellmate wasn't clutching onto Cobb in a desperate attempt to save his life, but rather Cobb just simply holding his cellmates head down under water. There was no desperate, panicked grasping on the cellmates part in that brief scene.

Which may require handwavium on my part: There's what I understand to be the situation (being that Cobb had to choose between killing his friend or dying with him) and what was filmed (which was Cobb smothering his friend when it was clear that he wasn't being hindered or pulled down in any way).

I like the guilt and necessity that the understood situation implies, and the wonderful potential for future stories regarding that. And I think it really fuels Cobb's desire to change his life and do good. Not just for surviving the storm, but for surviving at the cost of his friend. Which is why I hope that the cellmate's GF and family come into the picture at some point. So that the change in Cobb's life isn't just a general thing, but also specific to what he did to get that second-chance at life.

Hey, is Tim working on K-Ville? Because Allyson Beatrice just turned up as one of the vics on this week's episode.

He's been listed as a "consulting producer."

Hey, is Tim working on K-Ville? Because Allyson Beatrice just turned up as one of the vics on this week's episode.

So he's killed Allyson twice now? Interesting side claim to fame there.

Hee. I think she wasn't actually the vic, but definitely one of the characters. And then (as I noted in Natter), Carlos [memfault] from Serenity (the episode, not the movie) showed up as Mr. Beatrice, so at that point I was pretty sure.

She was the Vic, wasn't she?

And Carlos Jacott was her killer - Phil Beatrice.

And in a way she died twice in the episode since she ran away from him, he claimed that she was dead and then he actually killed her when he found her again in NO.

Oh, right right. I got confused between her and the (current) wife. I wasn't paying very good attention.

Also, she was the owner of a rocking club and secretly gave away lots of money to people in need after the storm. (A shout-out to Allyson's fundraising fu?)

OK, just taking a guess here, but anyone else think BONES is going to go for the bestiality subculture here?