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'Dirty Girls'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Vortex - Jul 23, 2008 9:01:48 am PDT #1454 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Am I correct in assuming that Gormagon targetted him because he was with the Jeffersonian and had the vault of goodies? Also, Zach didn't join him until halfway through the season, ie, his initiation took place during the mid-season break?

well, we don't know when Zack was recruited, in show time. He was recruited at a conference. I'm looking for signs as well. He hasn't turned yet, because Gormagon still has an apprentice. So, it should be in the upcoming episodes.


Connie Neil - Jul 23, 2008 9:47:23 am PDT #1455 of 11831
brillig

Gormagon still has an apprentice

Last Monday's episode says the apprentice was killed and that Gormagon's hunting for a new one. I'm trying to decide if Zach would so eagerly show off the camera in the vault if he'd been turned or not, though if he'd been turned it would show off the master's cleverness. But even Apprentice!Zach wouldn't put Bones in danger.


Vortex - Jul 23, 2008 10:53:51 am PDT #1456 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Last Monday's episode says the apprentice was killed and that Gormagon's hunting for a new one.

okay, so who jumped out of the closet? Was that supposed to be Zack? (oh wait, now that I think about it, Zack was supposed to have murdered the lobbyist, so that was him?) It must have been Gormagon himself who rode the motorcycle and tried to blow up Bones and Booth.


Connie Neil - Jul 23, 2008 11:08:51 am PDT #1457 of 11831
brillig

I can see Zach conspiring to use the camera as a means of getting the sculpture back to Gormagon, but I don't believe he'd connive at anything that would put Bones and Booth in danger. He went with Gormagon out of pure, if flawed, logic, and when Bones pointed out that he hurt himself because he was protecting Hodgins, Zach acknowledged he was working from a flawed position and told everything.

I'm still very sad watching poor, sweet Zach, but it's fun to play "Is he or isn't he."


Vortex - Jul 23, 2008 11:31:30 am PDT #1458 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that Gormagon must have recruited him between the camera discovery and the bomb. I don't think that he would have joined Gormagon if he had tried to hurt Brennan, and I don't think that he would have revealed the camera if he'd been the apprentice.

Also, it was Gormagon who tried to kill the lobbyist the first time, so he must not have recruited Zack by then. I also don't think that Zack would have been so callous about putting a child in danger.

Of course, this all assumes that the guy on the motorcycle was Gormagon and not Zack.


Connie Neil - Jul 23, 2008 11:58:11 am PDT #1459 of 11831
brillig

this all assumes that the guy on the motorcycle was Gormagon and not Zack

That's what I think, though they were still leaving their options open for suspicion of Hodgins as well, I think.


Vortex - Jul 25, 2008 6:41:36 am PDT #1460 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

So, last night, Eric Millegan (Zack) was doing a cabaret at my theatre, so we chatted about the show, got a little gossip.

First, he didn't think that the Gormagon thing was planned before the strike. He had been told that they were going to explore Zack's time in Iraq, and that Zack might die. The Gormagon thing apprentice bit might have been a way to write him off of the show.

Despite being a spoilerphobe, I did learn something about next season:

There was a big backlash to Zack being written out of the show, so the producers have signed him to do some scenes from the hospital. There had been rumours, I think, but Eric confirmed that he will be back. Gossip right from the horse's mouth. WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?


Connie Neil - Jul 25, 2008 6:43:55 am PDT #1461 of 11831
brillig

Cool!

I'LL TOUCH YOU!!!!


Toddson - Jul 25, 2008 11:12:39 am PDT #1462 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

gropes Vortex (that's touching, right?)


sumi - Jul 25, 2008 11:47:59 am PDT #1463 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

Ooh, Vortex - that's very cool. I wonder how they didn't realize that pulling that out of their asses would cause fan backlash ?