Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


brenda m - May 13, 2008 5:10:19 am PDT #1213 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But don't you know, sumi? Hot guys have to spend an inordinate amount of time fending off the unwanted and frankly pathetic attentions of fat chicks. They don't always turn out to be psychotics (though they have to be at least a little bit fucked in the head to imagine the hot guy isn't simply being polite by hiding his disgust) but even then, it's just kind of icky.


Stephanie - May 13, 2008 5:10:28 am PDT #1214 of 11831
Trust my rage

Hmm, I had a different reaction to Bones. I was just coming here to post how much I enjoy the Booth/Bones dynamic. I was really enjoying the singing at the end and I liked that instead of jumping up to get in front of Bones, I was pretty sure he was going to just shoot Pam.


SailAweigh - May 13, 2008 5:15:27 am PDT #1215 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I enjoyed Bones tonight, but I do wish they hadn't pulled out the "fat chick=obsessive stalker because she can't get a guy any other way" bit. I know plenty of skinny chicks who can get pretty stalkery! Although, I liked the way Sweet desconstructed her, it made a lot of sense (whether it was actual psychobabble based on realistic diagnoses and not stuff they jammed together because it sounded good, I don't know, but I hope it was real) and took away a little of the sting.


sumi - May 13, 2008 5:22:01 am PDT #1216 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

I know plenty of skinny chicks who can get pretty stalkery!

Yes, the most stalkery woman I know (friend of a friend) is not at all overweight.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 5:54:32 am PDT #1217 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Although, I liked the way Sweet desconstructed her, it made a lot of sense (whether it was actual psychobabble based on realistic diagnoses and not stuff they jammed together because it sounded good, I don't know, but I hope it was real) and took away a little of the sting.

absolutely, I liked the body image issue thing. And I liked her ribbing on Bones for being a skeleton and Bones being upset about it.


Ailleann - May 13, 2008 6:04:19 am PDT #1218 of 11831
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I did like that Sweets's analysis included that she had a distorted self-image.

I think my watch-from-the-hall vibe was less about her weight and more about how blindingly obvious it was that she was starting to stalk Booth. I mean, clearly they had to move it along because they were trying to resolve it in one episode, but two minutes into that nighttime meeting he should have been having her escorted from the building.

It's interesting that Bones's reaction (which I think was justified) sort of plays into the situation that they set up for the reasonable doubt in her father's case. Sweets said that she was pragmatic to a fault, and that if people she cared about were threatened she would be capable of almost anything. Not to say that I think her action wasn't justified, because that woman tried to shoot her, shot an FBI agent, and tried to shoot her again. But, Bones also had a wide range of shots that would have eliminated the threat that weren't "in the neck."


Vortex - May 13, 2008 6:11:37 am PDT #1219 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

but two minutes into that nighttime meeting he should have been having her escorted from the building.

amen. And why was he answering questions about his private life? I mean, he knew that she was an obsessive personality, and the object of her obsession had just died.

But, Bones also had a wide range of shots that would have eliminated the threat that weren't "in the neck."

yes, but you're not allowed to shoot to wound.


Ailleann - May 13, 2008 6:14:11 am PDT #1220 of 11831
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

yes, but you're not allowed to shoot to wound.

What do you mean? Like, since she's not a licensed officer, she would get in more trouble if she wounded her than if she killed her?


Stephanie - May 13, 2008 6:16:44 am PDT #1221 of 11831
Trust my rage

Well, not Vortex, but I was just going to say that you are always taught to shoot for "center of mass". I seriously doubt Bones aimed for and hit the neck (you know, if she were a real person). Besides, shooting to wound in this case (or generally any case) is not a smart move because the shooter still hadn't hit her target, and even if she had, there's nothing to stop her from shooting again.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 6:18:12 am PDT #1222 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, right, she's not a law enforcement officer, so she doesn't have to worry about IA or whatever, but if you shoot someone because you're afraid of your life, it's better if you kill them.