OK, I know McGarret has crossed a lot of lines on various occasions, but cutting down the tree may be too far for me.

At least they didn't get away with it.

I can't imagine Joan EVER using Holmes to scratch an itch. Not very far under the skin, he is emotionally volatile and unpredictable. Best case circumstance is he would use it as a weapon for the rest of their lives whenever he wants to annoy her. If Joan ever decides to have casual sex (and for all we know, she has on occasion) , IMO Holmes is the last person she'd ever choose.

-t, totally. That was awful. Felt more like out of character, sloppy writing than McGarrett line-crossing, I thought.

If Joan ever decides to have casual sex (and for all we know, she has on occasion) , IMO Holmes is the last person she'd ever choose.

You are not wrong. I was imagining it happening after years of successful partnership in which they had grown very comfortable. Sure as shootin' it won't happen now, as weird as Holmes is being about Watson now,

So Gracepoint. Seriously?

Right? I'm not feeling inclined to watch Broadchurch, but maybe I'll look for some spoilers on the ending.

After explaining the ending to a mom who'd watched Broadchurch, she declared it (the end of Gracepoint) a softening of the original ending, that it was easier to stomach. For myself, I thought it was more horrific, because not only was your husband still a pervy almost-pedophile, but now your beloved child was guilty of homicide, and you're covering up a cover up to protect your manslaughtering kid. Is this a "for a mom, covering your kids sin and husbands unfruited perversion and attempt to save mutual son" is easy in comparison to a pervy almost pedophile killing a kid who is also your husband".

For me, the inclusion of the kid being involved in part of the blame makes it immediately worse. Bu this mom, even before I said it was an accident, was bitching that the US version went soft. Is this, like, the viewpoint of a mother's ulitimate forgiveness. It's not horrible, mum' gonna love you anyway and not be heartsick that you did something awful because you're an innocent kid?

But she has triply horrid burdens to bear. One public, one private and because of her job, that one professional too. Everything in her life is fucked up.

Haven't seen Broadchurch, so I can't comment on the contrast.

Maybe it is a "softer" ending because the dad gets to redeem himself somewhat by protecting his son whereas in the Broadchurch ending he had no redeeming qualities.

I'm not sure I agree with that but I can understand why it might be perceived that way.

I definitely think it made for a harsher ending given the position that it puts the mother in.

Any storyline dealing with Sherlock Is An Addict will always, ALWAYS get me. It's my damn kryptonite.