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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Juliebird - Dec 16, 2014 4:43:53 pm PST #11026 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

After explaining the ending to a mom who'd watched Broadchurch, she declared it (the end of Gracepoint) a softening of the original ending, that it was easier to stomach. For myself, I thought it was more horrific, because not only was your husband still a pervy almost-pedophile, but now your beloved child was guilty of homicide, and you're covering up a cover up to protect your manslaughtering kid. Is this a "for a mom, covering your kids sin and husbands unfruited perversion and attempt to save mutual son" is easy in comparison to a pervy almost pedophile killing a kid who is also your husband".

For me, the inclusion of the kid being involved in part of the blame makes it immediately worse. Bu this mom, even before I said it was an accident, was bitching that the US version went soft. Is this, like, the viewpoint of a mother's ulitimate forgiveness. It's not horrible, mum' gonna love you anyway and not be heartsick that you did something awful because you're an innocent kid?


sarameg - Dec 16, 2014 5:07:21 pm PST #11027 of 11831

But she has triply horrid burdens to bear. One public, one private and because of her job, that one professional too. Everything in her life is fucked up.

Haven't seen Broadchurch, so I can't comment on the contrast.


lcat - Dec 16, 2014 7:13:22 pm PST #11028 of 11831
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.

Maybe it is a "softer" ending because the dad gets to redeem himself somewhat by protecting his son whereas in the Broadchurch ending he had no redeeming qualities.

I'm not sure I agree with that but I can understand why it might be perceived that way.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 17, 2014 5:20:32 am PST #11029 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I definitely think it made for a harsher ending given the position that it puts the mother in.


Steph L. - Dec 18, 2014 6:25:55 pm PST #11030 of 11831
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Any storyline dealing with Sherlock Is An Addict will always, ALWAYS get me. It's my damn kryptonite.


Trudy Booth - Dec 19, 2014 7:45:44 pm PST #11031 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nobody tell my pacifist mother that Sherlock getting up in that dude's face thrilled me as much as it did.

It was second only to him sitting down all controlled and tense just afterwards.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2014 5:36:07 am PST #11032 of 11831
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Nobody tell my pacifist mother that Sherlock getting up in that dude's face thrilled me as much as it did.

BEST SCENE.


Jesse - Dec 21, 2014 4:05:21 am PST #11033 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am So Wrong, you guys. Two actual NYPD cops were shot and killed, and my immediate first thought was, "They better protect the armory during the funeral!"


Trudy Booth - Dec 21, 2014 4:13:20 am PST #11034 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Same wrong.


Steph L. - Dec 21, 2014 6:17:47 am PST #11035 of 11831
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

You're not the only one. (I also thought, "Shit, did he watch Elementary this week?")