I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


DCJensen - May 18, 2014 8:51:16 pm PDT #10749 of 11831
All is well that ends in pizza.

the Mentalist:

Jane would be in So much trouble in real life.


Typo Boy - May 18, 2014 10:31:16 pm PDT #10750 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

He literally got away with murder. Not to mention kidnapping and torture. So no reason for the show get realistic about consequences now. Even though I expected, I'm pissed that the show got him and Lisbon together. I really was hoping that after his futzing around for (How long - ten years?) that Lisbon would have moved on. ( I know it was six seasons, but the show was pretty cavalier about "six months later" and "2 years later". Plus I seem to remember it started with Jane already having been a consultant for some time.)


Typo Boy - May 18, 2014 10:48:53 pm PDT #10751 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

On second thought, I'm not sure Jane *would* be in serious trouble in real life. A (probably) rich apolitical non-Muslim white guy with FBI connections? As long has he did not get unsympathetic press, he might well skate with a token punishment - maybe with requirements for therapy (which Jane totally needs).


beekaytee - May 19, 2014 9:39:54 am PDT #10752 of 11831
Compassionately intolerant

I loved that Jane said, "It just makes me happy to be able to say that" and seemed to honestly let it go.

I also love that he actually hurt his ankle jumping the fence.

Nice touch, that.


§ ita § - May 19, 2014 9:58:58 am PDT #10753 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have never seen any romantic chemistry between them. I can see him thinking he's in love with her, but...ugh. That could be a shark-jump moment if they get and stay together.


EpicTangent - May 19, 2014 10:10:11 am PDT #10754 of 11831
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I have never seen any romantic chemistry between them. I can see him thinking he's in love with her, but...ugh. That could be a shark-jump moment if they get and stay together.

This. I was with Cho when he & Abbot were discussing it and he said that they're like brother and sister. Lisbon's like a slightly impatient older sister who puts up with and sometimes indulges her extremely intelligent/insightful little brother because his insights are valuable enough to make it worth her while. I kept wanting Jane to qualify his "I love you" to but "I'm not IN love with you, but I love you and would be bereft without you."


beekaytee - May 19, 2014 10:15:48 am PDT #10755 of 11831
Compassionately intolerant

"I'm not IN love with you, but I love you and would be bereft without you."

It could be a whole lot of that.

Jane has had a singular organizing principle and, even in her scolding ways, Lisbon has been a through-line within that organization. Without his original motivation, I can see him thinking...without being totally conscious of it...that he can't live without her. Though, he did seem sanguine about it after the confession.

His love seems more like the sort people developed within certain arranged marriages.

Cho's cluelessness might not have been so clueless after all, but I did think it was funny that the other guy was all, 'DUH, it's as plain as the nose on your face!'.


DCJensen - May 19, 2014 1:37:06 pm PDT #10756 of 11831
All is well that ends in pizza.

Cho and Abbott represent the two main factions of fandom in this episode.

Not the only ones, but the polar ones.

That beig said, I do wonder if Cho is playing Abbott.


WindSparrow - May 19, 2014 6:25:20 pm PDT #10757 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I have always seen chemistry between Jane and Lisbon. Romantic chemistry. There are enough instances of things that make me say, "If one of my brothers talked to/looked at/acted like that to me, I would need to put continents instead of just time zones between me and the rest of my family."


§ ita § - May 20, 2014 5:42:01 am PDT #10758 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whereas for me (which isn't talking about my personal life, nor non-existent brothers) it's one of the most fraternal/sororal relationships on TV bar Pete/Myka (don't say anything).

Who gets to stay fraternal?