I've never seen this show, but that's not gonna happen. Sheeit.

I've never seen this show, but that's not gonna happen. Sheeit.

You kinda make it sound like that's never gonna happen.

I've never been a fan of POI, so no, I'd never say it's going to happen here--there's no realism in any facet of the show, and if you're going to start failing there...

Well, it's not so much about that show(which I've never seen) as imagining it stacking up to The Wire, which I view as almost a transcendent achievement, even though I give up a lot of fiend cred getting sappy like that, probably. OTOH, there are many worse targets to aim for? At? I mean they could want to surpass the numbers of "Nash Bridges, Season One" or something, so I suppose that aspiring to something so ambitious is probably good, actually, although I enjoy the opportunity to use a Clay Davis curse.

which I view as almost a transcendent achievement

I think the show might be so far unsurpassed at doing what it did. I don't believe it was transcendent. I don't know if I believe transcendent TV series have existed, in fact. Maybe an episode, but the nature of the beast doesn't allow for multiple seasons to get hosannas from the angelic choir.

The Wire will be equalled, will be bettered, and for some people with decent arguments, already has (I'm not really going to listen all the way through any POI arguments, but to shift genres just a little (perhaps part of it is defying them, so far?) Breaking Bad has its share of reported angelic sightings).

I just don't believe in untouchable TV. Maybe I also like too much TV for that?

Erika, did you see the interview the other day where Idris Elba says he's only ever seen a handful of episodes?

I did read about that. Maybe he's too busy going around being fine.

A fair chunk of actors don't do that. I was just reading about the guy playing King Joffrey (who's quitting acting afterwards for charity work--does GOT play that well, or does he come from a Family?) who said he feels uncomfortable watching his stuff and that doesn't seem uncommon.

A fair chunk of actors don't do that. I was just reading about the guy playing King Joffrey (who's quitting acting afterwards for charity work--does GOT play that well, or does he come from a Family?) who said he feels uncomfortable watching his stuff and that doesn't seem uncommon.

I had a serious whiplash moment when I suddenly recognised a tiny King Joffrey chatting with Batman in Batman Begins. (And Bobby Elvis from Sons of Anarchy in the same movie.)

Speaking of recognition, one of the Panem Peacekeepers shows up in last night's CSI. Clearly I'm going to suspect him of everything bad, even crimes that haven't been committed yet.

The show is about as dumb as it always was--not as dumb as the other two, but never interesting-- most other procedurals can be interesting, but by changing the game, CSI doesn't really have an angle anymore. Any show can do as much forensics as they want to--they can even rag on poor old CSI to make themselves look better.

Watching this episode which isn't set in Vegas makes me wonder what they focus on as their differentiator when it's not "city as character" (seriously, how old is that? We get it...). You know, there's "The show with Sherlock Holmes" or "The show with the fake psychics" or "The other show with the Navy stuff". What show are they?

Mostly I came in to say the new guy has settled in really well. I wouldn't have predicted that Morpheus wouldn't be able to pull off generic procedural, and Sam Malone could. Actors, man. With the acting.

CSI is not at all interesting anymore, but it does fill that "procedural I can kind of half watch while doing something else" slot that keeps me watching it..