They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.

River ,'Ariel'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2013 7:51:01 am PST #10300 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

which I view as almost a transcendent achievement

I think the show might be so far unsurpassed at doing what it did. I don't believe it was transcendent. I don't know if I believe transcendent TV series have existed, in fact. Maybe an episode, but the nature of the beast doesn't allow for multiple seasons to get hosannas from the angelic choir.

The Wire will be equalled, will be bettered, and for some people with decent arguments, already has (I'm not really going to listen all the way through any POI arguments, but to shift genres just a little (perhaps part of it is defying them, so far?) Breaking Bad has its share of reported angelic sightings).

I just don't believe in untouchable TV. Maybe I also like too much TV for that?


brenda m - Nov 26, 2013 8:20:44 am PST #10301 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Erika, did you see the interview the other day where Idris Elba says he's only ever seen a handful of episodes?


erikaj - Nov 26, 2013 8:34:08 am PST #10302 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

I did read about that. Maybe he's too busy going around being fine.


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2013 1:26:40 pm PST #10303 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A fair chunk of actors don't do that. I was just reading about the guy playing King Joffrey (who's quitting acting afterwards for charity work--does GOT play that well, or does he come from a Family?) who said he feels uncomfortable watching his stuff and that doesn't seem uncommon.


billytea - Nov 26, 2013 1:36:05 pm PST #10304 of 11831
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

A fair chunk of actors don't do that. I was just reading about the guy playing King Joffrey (who's quitting acting afterwards for charity work--does GOT play that well, or does he come from a Family?) who said he feels uncomfortable watching his stuff and that doesn't seem uncommon.

I had a serious whiplash moment when I suddenly recognised a tiny King Joffrey chatting with Batman in Batman Begins. (And Bobby Elvis from Sons of Anarchy in the same movie.)


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2013 11:17:24 am PST #10305 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of recognition, one of the Panem Peacekeepers shows up in last night's CSI. Clearly I'm going to suspect him of everything bad, even crimes that haven't been committed yet.

The show is about as dumb as it always was--not as dumb as the other two, but never interesting-- most other procedurals can be interesting, but by changing the game, CSI doesn't really have an angle anymore. Any show can do as much forensics as they want to--they can even rag on poor old CSI to make themselves look better.

Watching this episode which isn't set in Vegas makes me wonder what they focus on as their differentiator when it's not "city as character" (seriously, how old is that? We get it...). You know, there's "The show with Sherlock Holmes" or "The show with the fake psychics" or "The other show with the Navy stuff". What show are they?

Mostly I came in to say the new guy has settled in really well. I wouldn't have predicted that Morpheus wouldn't be able to pull off generic procedural, and Sam Malone could. Actors, man. With the acting.


brenda m - Nov 28, 2013 2:13:59 pm PST #10306 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

CSI is not at all interesting anymore, but it does fill that "procedural I can kind of half watch while doing something else" slot that keeps me watching it..


Tom Scola - Nov 29, 2013 9:32:30 am PST #10307 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I did not think that Lucy Liu was this tall, even with heels: [link]


Steph L. - Nov 29, 2013 12:04:54 pm PST #10308 of 11831
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You could fit a pretty big Scully box under a floor-length gown.


Toddson - Dec 03, 2013 10:52:19 am PST #10309 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Is this where we're discussing Blacklist? because OMG! last night was something else!